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 _HumberLt. Colonel Posts: 211 |
# Answer: 21 - 2022-04-22 at 7:50 PM
Gees Bitter - I haven't had a pizza in years - and now you have given me a craving for one. lol. |
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 Nair0lFMaster of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 22 - 2022-04-23 at 2:53 AM
If you not following the way we should admin, maybe you should not be an Admin, if you do what ever you want . |
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 Mr.MTipLieutenant General III Posts: 305 |
# Answer: 23 - 2022-04-23 at 7:32 AM
In defense of every admin who plays regularly, its quite frustrating to have regulars behave like this. Its frustrating to be told how to admin by players who dont deal with with what we as regularly appearing admins have to deal with. This 6-2 start of the map whatever... its the usual story. Its also spill over from prior maps which I dont think anyone ever addressed this time around. I feel safe in assuming this because its nearly always the case in these situations. Its also incredibly frustrating to be told by admins, whether they be senior members at one time or not, How to admin. At a certain point you must realise that you cant only lead by example in the forums. I wouldnt expect that idea to work at all. Come in game and lead by example. Its easy to say 5, 10, 20 minutes here, but come and play for 2 hours during your off time, and listen to the same people make the same complaints while the same players do the same things wrong. Some of us are in game for OTaC 6 days a week and stuff like this happens every single day. Without fail. Even 1000Faces will agree with this. I think 3 hours was enough for 1000Faces who is not a notorious camper or spawn killer. He should know the camp rule by now though, along with how we as admins interpret it and will enforce it. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 24 - 2022-04-23 at 8:12 AM
Its not the way we admin, point, if you want to play without to get disturbed or investigate 3 min or less to see someone is camping , play with a different name, so then you dont need to Admin and get Interrupt in the gameplay, but dont give someone 3 hrs break. Its not a problem if someone is sitting there longer have 3 kills or have 6 kills in this 5 min rule, you can only proof it by a record or 2 Admins watching and if hes not moving then you can kick him, warnings are not needed, since bitter set it like this way. Last edit by Nair0lF at 2022-04-23 at 8:20 AM (1x Edited) |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 25 - 2022-04-23 at 8:21 AM
No 3 hrs. |
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 1000 FacesThread author Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 26 - 2022-04-23 at 9:41 AM
2022-04-22 at 2:08 PM - Rampant: He had 6 kills in a row while being on/next /behind that rock and we checked it using the command !hist not killed in between i even checked using shift+~ to see who he had killed and that also told me that hed been there the whole time If he had returned after being killed he had he had not been kicked by me, im aware that we on OTaC dont use the rule of returning to the same spot over and over to be seen as camping, but having a killstreak of 6 while being on that same rock all the time is considered camping. Hes a regular that complains about camping a lot so hes well aware of the camping rule. I was not "on that same rock all the time." That is not even close to true. I listed my movements/kills/deaths earlier in this thread based on Bitter's pizza slice analogy and his listing of the slices for that map. Those are the facts. You are lying when you say I was in one spot the entire time. |
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| H8W8IN 2nd Lieutenant Posts: 133 |
# Answer: 27 - 2022-04-23 at 4:24 PM
I will stick with the 3 hours, If you don't like it, you will have to address it with more than one admin. If you want to sit in the forums and tell me how to admin, I won't listen. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 28 - 2022-04-23 at 4:55 PM
Then i will remove you if it needs and i promise you to do it, i dont want someone in OTaC, who did what ever he want and we have a guideline for Admins, if you kick 3 hrs its not the way we do and if you not following this , you have to leave OTaC. Last edit by Nair0lF at 2022-04-23 at 5:03 PM (1x Edited) |
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| H8W8IN 2nd Lieutenant Posts: 133 |
# Answer: 29 - 2022-04-23 at 6:00 PM
You would have to remove half the admins that admin every night during the US time zone. I don't care if you are a so called Senior Admin, you provide no value to me. Unless Bitter tells me to leave OTAC, I am not going anywhere. I will not have one person dictate to me how I admin and play this game. I already dealt with that and he is no longer with us. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 30 - 2022-04-23 at 6:48 PM
dosent matter, we have a guidline, we all have Read and Understand to this guidline, follow it and no one has to dictate to you how to Admin, or leave OTaC, if i hear see something again about you, then the remove follows. Same to all other , who do what they want and not follow the admin guidline. |
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| TrueVeteran Corporal II  Posts: 32 |
# Answer: 31 - 2022-04-23 at 8:28 PM
I would like to know how you Nair as one individual can decide who can or cannot stay in OTaC. If I recall it is a decision to be made by Bitter or by vote with all members and I don't remember seeing that in the Forums or in a Meeting. I would suggest you come into TS and discuss it with the members online. ------------------ May Your Aim Be True And Your Bullets Deadly 
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 32 - 2022-04-23 at 11:45 PM
It can discussed perfectly in the Forum too, since there is no Meeting in the past and i take my rights as long Admin and i know you wont like to hear it ,as Senior Admin to tell to every Admin who wont follow the guideline for Admins and say he wont listen and do what he want , follow the guideline, be fair , remove the Tags and play, or leave, if you cant agree with this anymore. Thats all what i say and if someone dont want to follow this, leave OTaC. |
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 RampantMajor I Posts: 196 |
# Answer: 33 - 2022-04-24 at 8:27 AM
2022-04-23 at 9:41 AM - 1000 Faces: I was not "on that same rock all the time." That is not even close to true. I listed my movements/kills/deaths earlier in this thread based on Bitter's pizza slice analogy and his listing of the slices for that map. Those are the facts. You are lying when you say I was in one spot the entire time. You might have a problem with your memory then as i said i checked it i was 1 of the 1st in the killstreak of 6 and i was 1 of the last in that same killstreak and i believe your 6th kill was a betty aka camperbomb very suitable in this case. The !hist command showed theus the kilstreak of 6 as well. SO PLZ Try to be a part of the solution instead of being the cause of the problem. Dont complain about spawnkills or spawncampers when you camp yourself, and i hope you do it next time within the OTaC rules so 3 min or 5 kills and be gone before you make your 6th while trying to get away when you overstayed your camp action. |
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| King of Pain Gunnery Sergeant I  Posts: 76 |
# Answer: 34 - 2022-04-24 at 12:48 PM
I'm trying to understand the meaning behind a "senior admin to an admin. What's the difference? We are all admins. We all vote on what is right and wrong. The person who owns the server should be the only one to make a rash decision on who gets kicked out of the clan. I believe the "senior" title means nothing at this point since it's run by Spock now. If a person that been in the game for a long time. Knows the rules. Then yes a 3-hour kick seems advice. If the person is new, then I would understand doing the kick, then 5,10,20 method. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 35 - 2022-04-24 at 3:17 PM
Senior Admin is higher ranked Admin as a normal Admin and do take care of the server and is the Admin watch Admins, thats the reason only handfull Admins are in this Group, Honda trusted and gave us these previlegs to do what ever it neads to save and protect the server from unfairness and Admins who think what ever they wants to do, we had this crap years ago and all of them banned because of the reason they think to use there own rules, it dosent matter , we have this Guideline and we have RnU and agree to these Guideline to follow , them , read them ,it says 5 ,10, 30 min and so on, no one says something when you have a known player who do rule breaking, give a kick , there is no need to give 3hr , special for camping, like this case was , we do not warn for camping, kick only, nothing more ,nothing less . Last edit by Nair0lF at 2022-04-24 at 4:37 PM (1x Edited) |
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| 1000 Faces Thread author Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 36 - 2022-04-24 at 9:56 PM
2022-04-24 at 8:27 AM - Rampant: 2022-04-23 at 9:41 AM - 1000 Faces: I was not "on that same rock all the time." That is not even close to true. I listed my movements/kills/deaths earlier in this thread based on Bitter's pizza slice analogy and his listing of the slices for that map. Those are the facts. You are lying when you say I was in one spot the entire time. You might have a problem with your memory then as i said i checked it i was 1 of the 1st in the killstreak of 6 and i was 1 of the last in that same killstreak and i believe your 6th kill was a betty aka camperbomb very suitable in this case. The !hist command showed theus the kilstreak of 6 as well. SO PLZ Try to be a part of the solution instead of being the cause of the problem. Dont complain about spawnkills or spawncampers when you camp yourself, and i hope you do it next time within the OTaC rules so 3 min or 5 kills and be gone before you make your 6th while trying to get away when you overstayed your camp action. I wasn't camping. I listed the areas my kills came in earlier in this thread. No, my last kill wasn't the betty kill, that last kill happened as I was going down the hill toward the waterfall and I shot someone. That's when you kicked me. At that point I had 4 kills since my previous death. |
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| Rampant Major I Posts: 196 |
# Answer: 37 - 2022-04-25 at 2:43 PM
ok my last response here on this !hist showed all of us your kilstreak of 6 witch i kicked you for .++.++++++. (. =death +=kill) means you have 6 kills and that showed us all thats where i checked who you killed like i explained before. ... ... ... End of message |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 38 - 2022-04-25 at 4:14 PM
The hist dosent Show that this player was camping, he could but could also was moving around, you only can see it, if you spectate the player, but like i said, its not a big Deal if someone have 3 kills in 5 min or 6 kills in 5 min at same place, then you please the player to move on, if the player dont move on, kick him. |
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| Rampant Major I Posts: 196 |
# Answer: 39 - 2022-04-26 at 11:54 AM
2022-04-25 at 4:14 PM - Nair0lF: The hist dosent Show that this player was camping, he could but could also was moving around, you only can see it, if you spectate the player, but like i said, its not a big Deal if someone have 3 kills in 5 min or 6 kills in 5 min at same place, then you please the player to move on, if the player dont move on, kick him. Like i said before i checked the kill list in the console and it was all 1 place. If it had been any other player that doesnt complain as much as he does he would have had a warning before he reached the 5 kills His complaining about spawnkillers and spawncampers gave him zero tolerance for his own camping from my side and so was the judgement on TS with the other admins so if theres any doubt about the judgement of 3 admins plz say so. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 40 - 2022-04-26 at 1:02 PM
How can or do you check it on the console? The console dosent Show any location? Its not against you, but the only way to proof is to be in spectate, !hist or even check the kills at the console say or proof nothing, you are New, so thats why i tell it to you, how you need to go through this . 
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