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Fartalot


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# Thread - 2017-09-05 at 8:05 PM
Late last month Khnkoyan had no recoil hack on BAR. What do you think?

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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 1 - 2017-09-06 at 12:01 PM
Is there a Recording and where we can find them?


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BluePhoenix


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# Answer: 2 - 2017-09-06 at 3:42 PM
Even with a video, the No recoil hack is one of the toughest things to judge. When viewing a no recoil hack video it's not always obvious if it is indeed a hack as many guns use a randomized formula for determining gun sway and it is also influenced by how long the trigger is pressed on autos. Semi's are extremely difficult to judge. Many guns also present very little recoil at all, so it's not safe to say that there is a hack.

However, the bar does have a good amount of kick to it.

I recorded my own video of the bar in action. I even added steady aim to it. You can find Farts video of Khnhoyan and my bar in Farts folder in TS.

After comparing the 2, it is pretty clear this is a no recoil hack. EDIT: Well it was for a minute anyway. Thanks for checking Bitter.
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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 3 - 2017-09-06 at 11:39 PM
I went and recorded my own video in same fart folder in TS Lobby (bitter_bar2.dm_6)
I too added steady aim and I added double tap
Interesting, single shots it is random if this kicks or not
groups of two or three - at least one of them seems to kick.
HOWEVER,
If I when prone, to crouch, take aim, I got a lot of 2-4 shot groups with no o or minimal kick.
I was able to do this a few times in a row, so clearly there is a movement aspect to resetting the kick probability.
I demonstrated this shooting at the airplane wing

I also demonstrated where it does kick.

Reviewng the oyan video I see kick in all the groupings, sometimes a little and sometimes a lot. and since the shooting is all of 10 seconds total in the video, and its kicking it is pretty clear that this video is not evidence of any wrong doing. Even from his scores.... the charts are lack luster ....
Here he is:
http://24.147.101.172/otac/players/50/19 80853454.png
For comparison here is H8W8IN:
http://24.147.101.172/otac/players/50/09 07388616.png
and Valvenut:
http://24.147.101.172/otac/players/100/1 232134520.png

He is just an good/okay player. Nothing special scorewise and nothing special in your videos
I am open the possibility there is no-recoil but this is not the video that I would feel comfortable standing behind for ban purposes and neither should you.






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sandman_7


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# Answer: 4 - 2017-09-07 at 3:29 PM
Thanks for looking at it & doing a demo of your own. It's appreciated


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BluePhoenix


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# Answer: 5 - 2017-09-07 at 3:31 PM
Thanks Bitter, worst thing to judge.


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BluePhoenix


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# Answer: 6 - 2017-09-07 at 8:09 PM
I think we should watch and record him again with a longer duration and while using the bar.

I watched Bitters video and there were times that it had little recoil, but it was mostly pretty apparent. Koys' video had a long stretch with almost no recoil.

I will record another next chance I get.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 7 - 2017-09-08 at 9:37 PM
Seems like a witchhunt ... his scores are not crazy


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