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honda

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# Thread - 2019-05-02 at 10:16 PM
Server down from 23 average to 20. my speculated reasons are; admins getting to heavy handed, putting dogs and tanks at wrong time (less than 20 players), dominated players stacked on one team. stronger members should always pay attention team stack, try to get on weaker team, use less aggressive weapons, STG and BAR is a "NO NO" when we have less than 20 players, it's okay to die little more than server die. if situation continue I can predict this server won't last more than a year. are you gonna do something about it?


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BluePhoenix


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# Answer: 1 - 2019-05-03 at 9:03 AM
IMO, it's mostly because the game is dying, not anything to do with admin behavior.

Take a look at player counts for all CODWaW servers. At any given time there are usually less than 150 total players online. I monitor this regularly. The game is nearly dead. It's not just our server or anything to do with admins.


I actually see a bigger problem is that with much fewer active admins, especially in the morning and afternoons, players are breaking more rules with no admin support. Resulting in regulars bailing. To fix this problem we need more guest admins with the power to kick. I tried to give Drache admin yesterday but I am not allowed to do that. We need many more admins and this may help.

However, reducing custom maps and game types with low population is a good idea. Especially when changing to bolts, shotguns and pistols for various reasons.

one thing that can be done perhaps is to not allow game type changes with less than 24 people using code or to limit the privilege of changing game type to a select few.

I feel our admins and members need to go way out of the way to help new players learn our rules. Be more lenient on kicking and not more aggressive.

I also suggest letting old members back in with full admin rights, not alienating them. You may not like them personally, you may have had issues with them admining in the past, but some of them were our best and were on the server for more hours than most. Help them be better admins if they stray from the path. Just like new players and members, we need more bodies.




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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 2 - 2019-05-03 at 9:43 AM
I Think the Map Asylum (normal weapons) if its still on Rotation is a bad choice, the Same to make Roundhouse to a Bolt Map isent good, and the Low or Non admins in the US morning time ,we had admins Who get kicked out for Personal bad Behavior to Honda and other things idk, they were online At this Time ( us morning time) , maybe Think about Again to let them back ,like Blue said above, maybe ask Drache666 and Tequila6666 if they want to become a member or just make them Admins right away, i know them and they Are nice persons and were Admins at 10th i believe in the past, would be great.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 3 - 2019-05-03 at 9:52 AM
I agree the server population is low due to simply the age of the game....
Even I am playing the game a lot less.... and that sentiment collectively is eroding the sustained headcount.
Yes you can lose people with a map or weapon choice, but you only lose those that were going to leave anyway, it is not like they are going to play on another server and return after the map. We need more coverage overnight. We used to have Aussies and now that pool has dried up.


So I changed outskirts and roundhouse to be normal weapons again.
I agree about guest admin...... I am fine with Drache666
What are the list of regulars' names that you would want to see as admin?



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BluePhoenix


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# Answer: 4 - 2019-05-03 at 2:09 PM
Spoke with Dracha and Tequilla today. Dracha said she would gladly accept admin full time and Tequilla said he is almost always on with Dracha and didn't need/want it but would accept sponsorship


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 5 - 2019-05-03 at 6:29 PM
Lets do Dracha and not Tequilla


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OTaC-Bolt-


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# Answer: 6 - 2019-05-03 at 7:40 PM
I agree , Drache has "earned her stripes" so to speak. I have been sponsoring her for a while now. Tequila just starting to be sponsored.


P.s. I believe choosing special maps does often decrease the population. (Choosing a bolt only map a couple maps after we just did one KILLS the server, been seeing that) There is a right time and place for it. The bolt only maps are frustrating for new players (below lvl 4) Eliminating them will help (although I personally like them). I try to use a bolt a lot on about 50% of maps anyway so no biggie to me.


P.s.s. The game IS old. :(








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[duck]lola_brennt


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# Answer: 7 - 2019-05-04 at 6:50 AM
Lot's of ideas (imho) that are worth trying. I hope i can be back soon. But even
when i get back, my time of playing will be reduced a lot, because i will go back
to work in a few weeks (have been home for years now for some medical issues),
starting with 4 hours/day increasing up to fulltime job.
Don't be to harsh will be a prob to me to work on. But i will try to support best i can.
Anyway, i opened another (internal) thread for some different thoughts about
the topic.

Bert...


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 8 - 2019-05-04 at 9:31 AM
Feel free to start an internal thread if you have opinions


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sandman_7


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# Answer: 9 - 2019-05-04 at 10:42 AM
I agree with many of the sentiments voiced. It has become quite frustrating for us admins who are on to deal with all of the admin-ing. With fewer admins on & lot's of new players &/or rule breakers, it often get's a bit overwhelming. I think that's why you see us go "zero" more often now than in the past.

Adding Drache as admin is a great idea. If we can get a couple more especially for the daytime hours (US) that would be even better.

It's fine to go back to normal weapons on those maps that were bolt, those of us who like using bolts can always use bolts anyway.


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Hans_UK


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# Answer: 10 - 2019-05-12 at 2:38 PM
Aforementioned is ok, but would like to see dominant players with more restrictions.
I get somewhat frustrated with those camping comments a view of the older admins make. There is no way unless you watch a player for a lot of time to say just that. I am a weak player and have been accused numerous times of camping. I don't stay alive long enough for 5 kills in a row to even being in danger of so called camping. Many admins do that to me for no reason. All this and above combined does not help the population of the server we all love!!
Help the players to love our way of playing not constant Pickering ABOUT CAMPING


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 11 - 2019-05-13 at 8:01 AM
Regarding: Aforementioned is ok, but would like to see dominant players with more restrictions.

Name names (in a PM if you want), I am confident nearly all dominant regular players here have restrictions

Regarding: I get somewhat frustrated with those camping comments a view of the older admins make.

I agree.

Regarding: Many admins do that to me for no reason.

If you moved after 2 minutes and 3 kills, this would not happen. If you go right up to the limit but not over, you are forcing an admin to watch you and that is annoying. So they are annoyed they when they watch you, annoyed when you die or move after watching you, and you are annoyed when the warn you and say time to move because they don't want to watch you. If you camp right up to the limit this happens. So stop doing that. Move around a lot more, and all will benefit, admin won't watch you and they wont bitch about camping.

Other solution is to make camping allowed, or raise the limits to 15 kills or 15 minutes.








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BACartman


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# Answer: 12 - 2019-05-13 at 12:05 PM
Other solution is to make camping allowed, or raise the limits to 15 kills or 15 minutes.

I'd go for that


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Hans_UK


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# Answer: 13 - 2019-05-13 at 1:00 PM
Bittere you know if I would ever reach 5 kills would be a miracle. Maybe 2 or 3 if i'm lucky that's why I mentioned it above.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 14 - 2019-05-13 at 5:40 PM
Hans I will look at server logs


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OTaC-Bolt-


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# Answer: 15 - 2019-06-04 at 6:36 AM
I think just REMINDING the admins that camping IS ALLOWED for 3 min/5 kills is sufficient. Expecting an admin to watch a player for 15 minutes is ridiculous. Everyone just please stop complaining (including me) about the camping rule. We just need to be more "accepting" of it. OMG please don't go to 15 kills and 15 minutes , may as well bring in sniper scopes and call it a BK server. The server population will plummet if do that. :(

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[Sir]-Pingo-


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# Answer: 16 - 2019-06-06 at 5:18 PM
2019-06-04 at 6:36 AM - -Bolt-:
I think just REMINDING the admins that camping IS ALLOWED for 3 min/5 kills is sufficient. Expecting an admin to watch a player for 15 minutes is ridiculous. Everyone just please stop complaining (including me) about the camping rule. We just need to be more "accepting" of it. OMG please don't go to 15 kills and 15 minutes , may as well bring in sniper scopes and call it a BK server. The server population will plummet if do that. :(

OTaC- Bolt


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Longtrang


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# Answer: 17 - 2019-07-15 at 8:41 PM
I would love to assist but don't know computers much. Don't know when someone might see this reply but just shooting from the hip. Is there a way that friendly fire could be placed on or at least be reflective? We used to have that in our server a long time ago. Could try this change and see what folks think.


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