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King of Pain


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Location: Allentown, PA
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# Thread - 2020-09-03 at 8:02 PM
Shouldn't this be updated?
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BitterSpock


Master of Time and Space




Location: Planet Vulcan
Posts: 1883
# Answer: 1 - 2020-09-04 at 1:14 PM
in what way


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[duck]LambdaFn


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# Answer: 2 - 2020-09-04 at 2:54 PM
As far as I can tell, the list is up to date.. Is there someone missing?


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Nair0lF


Master of Time and Space



Location: Bad Gandersheim
Posts: 1008
# Answer: 3 - 2020-09-04 at 4:14 PM
There are alot who not ware Tags anymore ,or they come on and remove there tags and let other do the job Admining, if they dont want to Admin ,they should give back the Admin rights to Member , or move completly out of, its useless if you there or not , if you only wants to play then give back the rights,it make no sence to be a Admin if you put on your Tag on only to be a Part of OTaC, or when good buddys online,or when no other is online, give back your rights and its ok . There is nothing to be online with aliases, but if you do it the whole time like i said before, quit and its ok


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BushidoSaN1


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Location: Berlin
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# Answer: 4 - 2020-09-05 at 4:53 AM
That's exactly what I've noticed lately. If, although you are OTaC, the tag is played because you have no desire to administrate. It has been going on for days. What is that supposed to mean ??? Everyone has the pride to be here in the OTaC clan member or even admin. Not everyone is given this privilege for free. Is it? Anyone who saves the day in the game is, for me, not worthy of being a member. With all severity, a statement is necessary. This affects the players TrueVeteran and Atlas908. So people make a sensible statement about it. I hope that the report will not be closed again immediately. Either member or member or it is better to leave the clan.


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BitterSpock


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Posts: 1883
# Answer: 5 - 2020-09-05 at 7:35 AM
As far as I know, since I have been here, the Member/Admin list just grows, but never shrinks.
In my prior clan (509th) a membership requirement was that you had to make 2 posts a month in the forums to stay active and you had to pay dues monthly. There is no such requirement here for dues or posts..... so we don't have any sense of "active members/admin".

I think we are happy when members/admin return after long breaks and they need not join again.

There is a way to detect from the bot database who is active member/admin with some lookback window of time. But the effort to automate that does not produce anything of real value for the clan so I am not inclined to implement such a utility.

So as such, if there are names missing or in an improper state or category in the list, please call them out specifically to me and I will fix.
Otherwise OTaC is like Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you never leave.



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[duck]lola_brennt


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# Answer: 6 - 2020-09-05 at 10:11 AM
"'Relax!' said the night man, he's programmed to recieve!"...

ah and...

"And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the duck
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can't make her quackt"


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Willpoop


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Location: Uranus
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# Answer: 7 - 2020-09-06 at 1:30 AM
I sometimes play with a different name and no tags. Not often but do it for different reasons. I didn’t realise this was a problem and have happily given up my time with admin duties since I became an admin. So if I wish to play as an unknown player in future does that mean I have to hand my tags in?.


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[duck]lola_brennt


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# Answer: 8 - 2020-09-06 at 2:05 AM
afaik... no... i got one aka, just if i want to play, to play and nothing else but to play...


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Nair0lF


Master of Time and Space



Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 9 - 2020-09-06 at 4:08 AM
No, no William, that wasn't aimed at someone like you and me who sometimes play with aliases, don't get me wrong, there is nothing against playing with aliases, I meant there are admins who come online with otac names , with otac tag and then get out and remove the tag, come back online and play with it all the time and when other admins are gone, just because they then have to administrate because no other admins are online, then play with the clan tag again, but all the hours before you just play and do nothing, I pointed out to these administrators that they'd better put the tags off because they're not helpful, useless if they don't help and only do it when no other admin is online is in order to be able to play undisturbed without having to do the administrator job, which those who do it on purpose play for hours with well-known Otac names, which is provocative towards admins who are constantly with Clan T ags play, and what I also meant that there are players in the player list who have stopped, were fired, these should be removed, something does not look good if it is in the member list


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BushidoSaN1


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Location: Berlin
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# Answer: 10 - 2020-09-06 at 12:48 PM
additive

That's exactly how it is meant.


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TrueVeteran


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# Answer: 11 - 2020-09-06 at 1:59 PM
I remove my tags only when I wish to play unhindered to enjoy the game. As to Nairs comment about people not wanting to be admins or not admining while in game he should come in during my evenings and he will find I do most of the admining so other admins can play and enjoy the game. I must also say that just because a person takes their tags down it could be because they have other personal problems and dont want to be burdened with the extra stress of admining.

One should check the facts and reasons someone does something like removing their tags before accusations are make.

If the powers to be wish to remove my Admin rights simply because I take them off to enjoy the play then so be it.

There that is my 2 cents worth.


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Nair0lF


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Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 12 - 2020-09-06 at 2:14 PM
Removed send in pm


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TrueVeteran


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# Answer: 13 - 2020-09-06 at 2:21 PM
I remove my tags when you are on to prevent incidences that you continually bring up in the Forum and that way I can enjoy the game without worries. You seem to have something against me because I have no other problems with any other member of OTaC. Seems every week you bring up a new problem and I don't need the drama. Also it is my understanding that when admining the admins should be on the same channel so as to discuss problem players and know who is dealing with them not 2 different channels.


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Nair0lF


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Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 14 - 2020-09-06 at 2:30 PM
Removed send in pm


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Nair0lF


Master of Time and Space



Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 15 - 2020-09-06 at 2:38 PM
Removed to send it on pm


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Nair0lF


Master of Time and Space



Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 16 - 2020-09-06 at 4:12 PM
You can not use ur own rules binds to Admin, thats why i Was asking via rcon Tool, since when OTaC have such rule you were showing , its something with Camping or camp in it, the rules we have are r1 to r10 and no other selfmade commands or bindings or rules , we all have to Show the same rules in same color and same words, then you have binding with Camper Down or something, camping is allowed 3 min 5 kills, this bind makes no sense and looks wird, when this come from an Admin or a Name whos known as Admin Name


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BushidoSaN1


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Location: Berlin
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# Answer: 17 - 2020-09-07 at 2:13 AM
I remove my tags when you are on to prevent incidences that you continually bring up in the Forum and that way I can enjoy the game without worries. <<<<<<<<< ????????

TrueVeteran they remove the OTaC tag because of us ???? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard and experienced so far. What are you waiting for and what is your goal? Are you waiting to be banned from the server? Or that you remove them as an administrator? Are you missing the openness and honesty something that could disturb you to speak and cover up to tell us that you do not want something? This is then said to be underhandedness in Germany and they provoke us with it. I know that you are aware of what you are doing. Are you so used to wanting to achieve your goals in this way? I expected more from them. Incredible


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TrueVeteran


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# Answer: 18 - 2020-09-07 at 11:57 AM
Bushido to answer your question Nair is in my opinion trying to drive me out of OTaC and away from my friends and if that is the case then let him tell me himself. I don't know what his problem is but I don't want a war of words in the forum and besides I come into this game to relax not fight with people.

This is all I will say about the matter good day.


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Nair0lF


Master of Time and Space



Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 19 - 2020-09-07 at 3:56 PM
Why should I want you out from the clan TrueVeteran? you are just imagining it, as I have already written, I usually like you all, I just didn't like the way you behaved towards us and how people interfered in our decisions making , I don't want to experience any taunts again and again, How Admins have to hear about me, others crack their mouths and judge us, who don't even know you and allow themselves to judge me, I don't like how some administrators are, that's what the senior admins are for, that's what MrMackey has to offer taught, and when I then see admins publicly refer to other admins as crybugs on the server, that throws a bad image of us as a clan, something can be discussed internally, something should not be made public, just as then claim we are not capable Calling us Senior Admin because of our poor English skills,we not deserved it, all that was told behind our back in the lobby, another admin confirmed that and reportet to us, that has to change and stop just because want to be among us and in another lobby .


I dont like how some Admins Admining, they kick because someone tell them this player did this and did that, you have to go in spectate to watch and take a look by yourself, i dont like how some Admins use there own rule bindings who are not the same as we already has, i dont like it when Admins make binds with Camper Down or something or type it in chat, if its says in a fun manner is there nothing against it to say, i dont like when Admins have no Patients to New players,not try to teach them our rules and because they get disturbed by gameplay they kick them already, this is not OTaC and its not how it Shows us in the OTaC rules for Admins, the minimum is 3 warnings, no matter what other regulars say, they were New to this gameplay one day too, some not understand English, some get warned from 3 different Admins at same Time, give them Time to understand the server rules, this our Job as Senior Admins, to watch over other Admins, how they behave , Admining, how are they to our Guests , as we dont have any Meetings since 2 years or something i have to say it on this way on Forum , next i will do a thread were i post about how Admins admining, and when Bushy and myself are dealing with someone then no other has to interfere in our decisions , we are fair and allways Patient to other players, we are not doing it for fun or to bothering someone, when we do some Action, then there Was 100% a rule breaking situation, even if it was youre buddy where you played 10 years together, like the case with HelenBack .


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King of Pain
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Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 31
# Answer: 20 - 2020-09-07 at 9:20 PM
Yes my name should be in the OTaC list. I'm still in the OTmc. I go promoted a long time ago.




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