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honda

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# Thread - 2021-11-24 at 1:27 PM
COD4 server up and running, no rules right now have fun till Bitter put something in it

108.61.100.164:28960 24 players


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 1 - 2021-11-24 at 4:05 PM
Thank you Honda. We appreciate it


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 2 - 2021-11-25 at 4:28 AM
Hello Boss,thank you for this opportunity, please set the Server to Team Deathmatch and is there any Rcon Password, please send it in Privat message if so, and if its possible the Control Panel Members Area excess please thanks


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 3 - 2021-11-25 at 7:33 AM
2021-11-25 at 4:28 AM - Nair0lF:
Hello Boss,thank you for this opportunity, please set the Server to Team Deathmatch and is there any Rcon Password, please send it in Privat message if so, and if its possible the Control Panel Members Area excess please thanks


BitterBot isn't set up yet. Once Sp0ck sets it up we can get R'CON and and bot commands.


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 4 - 2021-12-07 at 12:34 PM
Lets get the word out to our guests, i'll run adverts for it in game in the chat.


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Rampant


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# Answer: 5 - 2021-12-12 at 11:15 AM
Can you add a server monitor as well on the webby


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 6 - 2021-12-12 at 2:42 PM
Tom, can we switch the play style to TDM please. Free for All won't keep them coming back and I've already had several requests to have it switched to TDM


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 7 - 2021-12-12 at 3:51 PM
It is set to TDM (which is WAR in COD4) adn I also set the rcon password the same as doc WAW server.
No bot.
you can use external rcon tool.

Guys you have 1 month from now to get it populated or we are wasting our time.


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 8 - 2021-12-13 at 8:44 AM
1.8 Version will not fill the OTaC Server, the most have 1.7 , there are no players on 1.8 Version, we need to get 1.7 running, or we can forget about it, maybe we need to use a different Provider, not Gameservers, if they dont have 1.7 version


excample server and its a Dedicated IP Server, 24 Slot Public Server for 3 Month cost in the 1st Month 11,81 $ and the 2nd and 3rd Month 20,61 $, its getting cheaper as longer you will chose per Month. A 12 Month contrac will be 11,03 $ the 1st Month and 22,06 $ at the 2nd Month to 12st Month.

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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 9 - 2021-12-13 at 9:47 AM
Then we should kill this endeavor


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 10 - 2021-12-16 at 12:55 PM
The 1.8 version is the Steam version which can easily be updated from the 1.7 original CD. If there are no 1.8 servers that are populated and the 1.7 servers are populated then there must be a way to run the 1.7 version server. If Gameservers doesn't have it them perhaps we should look at other options.

(Update 1.7 - 1.8 link: https://fearless-assassins.com/files/fil e/1758-cod4-18-security-patch-how-to-upd ate-to-cod4-18-patch/ )


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La_Tatane_BR


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# Answer: 11 - 2021-12-16 at 3:17 PM
Hi all, I have a stupid question that does not require a snappy answer : I had COD4 but lost the CD, so which one do I have to buy ? Is it the remastered version or the old one ?
Sorry to look such a dumb ass !


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 12 - 2021-12-16 at 3:26 PM
Normaly it dosent matters i think , the remastered is only better grafic, but i would use the old one


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Barcode357


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# Answer: 13 - 2021-12-16 at 6:29 PM
2021-12-16 at 3:17 PM - La_Tatane_BR:
Hi all, I have a stupid question that does not require a snappy answer : I had COD4 but lost the CD, so which one do I have to buy ? Is it the remastered version or the old one ?
Sorry to look such a dumb ass !


You will need the original Call of Duty 4 to play on OTaC, not the remastered.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 14 - 2021-12-17 at 6:58 AM
The cod4 endeavor is going nowhere . We will not be offering a cod4 server once the current paid time expires


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 15 - 2021-12-18 at 7:40 AM
The COD4 endeavor is going nowhere because we made an error in getting a server. Gameservers only supports the Steam version (1.8), most people play the 1.7 version. The 1.8 version can be played on a 1.7 server (it auto adjusts). The Remastered version is the new produced version that does not allow private servers, it's a new game basically and cannot be used with v1.7 or v1.8. All we need to eliminate the confusion is a 1.7 server from a provider, end of issue and we're supporting a second game.

If you have a look at the link below and check the server activity in COD4 you'll see that these are 1.7 servers and there is more activity in COD4 MW than in W@W. We can take advantage of this and build our numbers and host 2 reasonably active games. The main reason that we're not seeing activity on the 1.8 server is simply people are having issues in trying to get their 1.7 version to work and don't want to buy an additional version (the 1.8). The 1.7 version community is alive and well.

[https://www.gametracker.com/search/cod4/ ?


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# Answer: 16 - 2021-12-19 at 3:20 PM
Tom, I'm not trying to be a pain I just think this game could be a great booster for OutTact as a whole. COD5 World at War is a great game and it's the building block of OutTact, of that there is no doubt. I am advocating an addition that has a community, has interested players on our part who would help to populate a 1.7 server, and additionally we would have the benefit of being in a community that is most certainly still alive. The v1.8 community never really took off like 1.7 and if you owned the 1.8 you could easily play the other version simply by joining the server. Not so for those who had purchased the original v1.7, you could not join them on the steam 1.8 servers unless you messed with your game files, and most people didn't want to or know how to do that.
End result today, we have an opportunity to breathe some additional new life into OutTact by adding a great game, in fact THE game that W@W was designed from, and grow to number 1 in COD4 MW. OutTact did it in W@W and we can do it again in MW (hell, it's a good challenge. )

The best data that I've found so far is that Elite Game Servers has COD4 MW, just select the 1.7, and is 0.76 cents/slot USD. (info below)

Call of Duty 4 Game Server Features:
Public as default
Debranded
B3 can be installed from the control panel
Promod or COD4X can easily be installed from the mod manager in the control panel
Custom command line options, for additional mod support
Can be downgraded to version 1.7 or 1.5!
SSD's for the Ultimate Performance!

https://www.elitegameservers.net/game-se rvers/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare-game -server-hosting


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 17 - 2021-12-19 at 9:05 PM
Here are my thoughts.

We have tried a modded servers before and tried to get traffic on them. The modes were superior to the stock server in every way. We had modern weapons (like cod4) and we also tried a vietnam mod. Had tons of maps. It was a blast when we got critical mass. On nights where that happened we got maybe 2-3 maps in a row. Then a few people would leave dropping below critical mass and then every switched back to the main stock server since it was populated. New players join the stock server. I honestly can say with about 99.9% certainty that any COD4 server will fall into that same fate.

I was willing to entertain setting up COD4 on a trial basis since it was offered by our current game provider (gameservers) and we could set it up, and maybe we get a month or two of fun out of it on a few nights before we gave up on trying to populate it. Right now OTaC is in a unique position where we ALWAYS have critical mass in the main server, or at least it feels that way when I join.
You are not seeing the reality which is the COD4 server is gonna sit empty. We had the 1.8 there, we had a bunch of people that had the game and could join it, and I doubt it ever got used for any notable succession of games with critical mass.

So now you are asking to invest more effort to endeavor 99.9% doomed to be a flash in the pan and used by maybe 10 players for a couple matches. This request now requires:
1. Obtaining a new game server provider that can host specific versions 1.7 and/or the community patch
2. That provider needs to also have a filesystem and OS configuration that allows the games_mp.log to be FTP'ed while it is being written. This is needed for the bot to work. I have tried two other providers and they both could not allow for FTP access to an open file (while the game server is running) which mad the bot unable to respond to ongoing commands.
3. We have to setup a payment method to fund it may be problematic since the donations piece is tied to gameservers, and it is unclear if it possible to do
4. It is unclear if the log files for cod4 are similar enough to WAW log files that the bitterbot can be used without modification. If not that requires code changes and testing, or it requires that an entirely new b3 bot instance be configured and hosted on a server, and it is unclear if that can be put on the linux server I already have for bitterbot. Or it means that it is external RCON tool and then all admin need to get configured (self included)

This is a lot off effort for something doomed to fizzle out quickly.

I would recommend that if you want to play COD4 you should agree that a bunch of you will play as a guest on some other COD4 tactical server hosted by someone else (pick one and everyone meet there). You can create a TS lobby for COD4 in our Teamspeak.
If you have a ton of players 24/7 you can call me wrong and I will then make it my mission to setup on for OTaC.

Absent that, I think this is wasted effort with no return on investment.
Sorry to throw cold water on it.

I would rather have a modded WAW server if we could populate it. But it is about persistent critical mass, and you are a long long long way from having that if ever.



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# Answer: 18 - 2021-12-20 at 7:09 AM
My intention was not to have a mod server, they screw up regular game settings and the maps are a pain in the ass to dl unless you have a website where you can house the map content (that in itself is why the last mod server didn't gain traction).
I hear what you're saying but you are missing a critical point here. Very few had or have the 1.8 steam version and those that didn't have it (v1.8)but already had 1.7 version weren't about to get it for the sake of an old game. A 1.7 server would have worked fine as both v1.7 and v1.8 could both play without issue and it would have been easy to populate a 20 slot server in a community that is still alive and kicking. The 1.7 version community is alive and well, more so than W@W. It doesn't help that Gameservers has an ass for a hat and can't offer the most popular version of a classic game.




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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 19 - 2021-12-20 at 7:31 AM
I agree with Voodoo, the most have 1.7 Version and there are more players as on cod waw around, thats funny too.


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# Answer: 20 - 2021-12-20 at 10:23 AM
No, I think you are missing my critical point - You will not have critical mass and the server will sit empty most of the time and/or you will siphon traffic from the main server to the cod4 server and the main server will drop below critical mass. I highlighted the work above if you want to get COD4 going.

Since I am strongly convinced that that the effort is both tedious and futile, I am saying that I will not spearhead this endeavor. I am not opposed to it, but I am opting out of driving it. Anyone is welcome to reach out to Honda and work with him to set it up, but I am not going to to be part of that effort, I am too busy with real life and my real job to put in this extra effort. Please step forward and own it if you are really hellbent on having a COD4 1.7 server.




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