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Bird


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# Thread - 2023-04-11 at 8:00 PM
I was called out for "Bhopping" Then placed on "Troll Status" bby a player named YummyMummy..........it happend when i jumped one time while aiming down sights during a bolt only match and killed him, we were 1v1 and he missed his shot, so i jumped while stationary to get an advantage, I was kicked instantly when i tried to defend myself and said i was going to report them.. thats when They started mocking on voice chat knowing that i would be kicked if i was to respond, "Im so scared,you think your so special," So i left once again...

Bunnyhopping by definition is and I quote

"Bunny hopping is a video game technique used in first-person shooter (FPS) games in which the player continually runs and jumps, often while firing a weapon" let me put the emphasis heavily on the words Continually runs, and Jumps Often, I was neither Moving Nor Jumping often, i jumped one time while stationary aiming down sights, I might as well have been jumping to shoot over cover,

Im really tired of being bullied on here when I get home for work its unfair, that just because Im good at this game your admins get frustrated and abuse their powers, its crazy does every single player have admin ?? it seems like any time I am top fragging and playing the game by the rules I get patronized..
Again, I was not spectated before being accused ,They made it so It Troll kicked me, I think you should re evaluate whom you have representing this server
your going to run away the last remaining players you have if they continue to run rampant like they do..

It makes me wonder how many other players are treated this way?? ive been told by many that its quite often. This might be the last thing that does it for me, ive been playing here for as long as i can remember and unfortunately its just not the wonderful family I remember

Or Maby Ill Apply to the clan and move up the ranks to help weed out the snakes


Last edit by Bird at 2023-04-11 at 8:16 PM (6x Edited)
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sandman_7


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# Answer: 1 - 2023-04-11 at 9:04 PM
You bunny hopped to avoid fire. This was typed to you. You then decided to argue the warning... You literally hopped to avoid fire and then proceeded to argue the point. You were trolled because you wouldn't stop arguing.


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Bird
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# Answer: 2 - 2023-04-11 at 10:52 PM
I did not B hop to avoid fire, Jumping one time in place is not by Bhopping By Definition I JUMPED ONE TIME and i wasnt even moving dude i was stationary,

Please Bitter can you Define your version of Bhopping to clear this up, If you Google The definition Of Bunnyhop you get

""Bunny hopping is a video game technique used in first-person shooter (FPS) games in which the player continually runs and jumps, often while firing a weapon"


let me put the emphasis heavily on the words Continually runs, and Jumps Often,



I was neither Moving Nor Jumping often, i jumped one time while stationary aiming down sights, I might as well have been jumping to shoot over cover,


Ive been over this with Honda in the past, His rule was, as long as your not moving and you dont jump twice there is no problem while jumping under fire or to fire, or to fire over objects, "It would be the same as shooting over cover while taking fire" with some exception to jumping to shoot over cover from a position that needs momentum..

But your the boss now bitter so please let us know the rules!


Last edit by Bird at 2023-04-11 at 11:04 PM (3x Edited)
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TheEarlyBird


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# Answer: 3 - 2023-04-12 at 11:36 AM
2023-04-11 at 10:52 PM - Bird:
Please Bitter can you Define your version of Bhopping to clear this up, If you Google The definition Of Bunnyhop you get


I know I'm not Spock, however

The definitions are all there in-game. A lot are different than what you'll find on google. Like the trolling definition, paraphrased as "Continuously arguing with an admin and taking up the time, only trolls do that"

To access the definitions, one has to type in the chat "define [Keyword]" for example 'define running' and 'define run' both lead you to the right answer.

Even jumping while standstill in a gunfight can count as bunny-hopping in some circumstances. It's best to avoid jumping all-together in gunfights. But some do make mistakes, and say sorry mis-keyed or they do it on instinct muscle memory and say sorry I wont do it again and that's usually the end of it. Instead of escalating as that is the worst thing you can do and will almost always make the situation much worse) and trying to defend yourself, keep calm and non-argumentative as it's key to keep the situation from escalating from in-game to forum.

I understand you've been away a while, but things aren't the same as when you were here last. Subtle rule changes.

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As this is a player report, there should be some evidence of the voice chat insults (insults and rudeness is against the rules). Or are you reporting the admin who set the troll status. It's not quite clear.


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 4 - 2023-04-12 at 12:33 PM
Hopping to avoid fire is not allowed, same when you jump in game while there is no need for it, like no sandbags, walls etc. You are allowed to jump when you are in front of something to shoot at the enemy behind, walls, trucks, sandbags, but only in the Position you stay.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 5 - 2023-04-12 at 1:10 PM
Bird - De-escalate please
Why argue with a warning ?
Nothing happens.


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Bird
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# Answer: 6 - 2023-04-13 at 1:23 AM
Bitter please Define Bunny hopping "Jumping to avoid fire" PERIOD", is prohibited?

,i was trolled knowing that while the admins were mocking me in voice chat, that i would reply in defense and be kicked.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 7 - 2023-04-13 at 7:35 AM
You can jump to get over an object on the ground
You can jump over a gap to get to a spot
You can jump straight up and down to shoot over an object.
Otherwise any jumping with lateral movement is disallowed.

We just don't want WAW combat to look like low gravity Unreal Tournament combat where you should bunny hop unless you are stupid.

Warnings have no teeth. The warning for bunny hopping had zero effect on you. If you weren't and and admin got it wrong, you could have simply said to yourself it wasn't and kept playing.

A persistent argumentative posture won't end well even if you are right.
Also we just had a different issue between you+admin and here we are with a new one.

Although you should be able to twirl about safely at 3am through any dark alley in Dorchester, MA holding a wad of cash in one hand and dressed in a ballerina tutu, if you end up having an altercation with anyone, and have a heated verbal exchange with lots of taunting and mockery and then they beat the crap out of you ......

Where would you start to assign fault?

I would say there are steps you could have taken to avoid being in that situation and confrontation altogether.
Now think of the bunny hopping and trolling .... what steps could you have taken to avoid confrontation ?

I don't care so much that wrong bunny hopping warning was given ... like I said it has no teeth. Nothing happened.
Arguing is the problem. De-escalate please.

If you want to escalate - you should send me a private message rather than continue to be combative with admin.

Players are imperfect. Admin are imperfect. I need both for the server to stay running.
If I see something egregious (have not yet) I will deal with it (player or admin)
If I see a long-term source of irritation (for me) I will deal with it (player or admin)

I am having a party at my house and a couple of the guests/friends are in each other's face, and they are causing a scene, and people are are around them trying to keep them from fighting.

That is how I view this. I don't care that the fight may ensue or that either gets hauled off to jail. I care that it is ruining my party and I don't want my house trashed. Those guests/friends need to calm down or I doubt they will be invited to the next party.

So at some point the solution should be that if I see a continued conflict between the same player and admin, I should just ban both of them and they are both now uninvited from my party. I am not at that point yet. I don't want to get to that point. Please help me not get to that point.





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Bird
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# Answer: 8 - 2023-04-13 at 10:57 PM
thank you bitter,i just wanted to simply understand YOUR rules and hear them come straight from you so that this doesnt happen again

so,.....Is jumping a single time vertically while in combat (Not Lateral), with an open path,without any obstacles obstructing the way prohibited????


Last edit by Bird at 2023-04-13 at 10:59 PM (1x Edited)
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Voodoo


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# Answer: 9 - 2023-04-14 at 10:29 AM
Issue resolved. Thread closed.


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