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 Havon_FrostPrivate First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Thread - 2016-07-11 at 10:21 PM
I was recently banned on ts and the otac crouch only server for absolutely no reason. I guess changing your username to McDonaldsWiFiAdminDestroyer is a bad thing. And i got banned for asking to put up the new server ip in chat. i Asked about 3 times because the first time it did not give me enough time to write it down. Thanks for your time for reading |
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 MrMackeyMkayBoardMod  Location: Portland OR Posts: 823 |
# Answer: 1 - 2016-07-11 at 10:26 PM
I will display for you the reason for your ban. His behavior fit the typical feigned innocence tactic. He performs some minor offensive act that borders on acceptability. He then moves on to the next similar offense, until he builds a whole collection of "what did I do?" behaviors. An example is to come into TS using OTaC tags. When asked to remove them, his response is: Oh I am just supporting the clan. I do not tolerate players who come in to have fun at the expense of other players. Messing with peoples patience for your own entertainment is selfish and borders on sociopathic behavior. I recommend you examine why you behave the way you do. I leave open the possibility that I have completely misread you. But there is little evidence that you will change my opinion on the matter. Have a good life. ------------------ Something Really Witty!!! Last edit by MrMackeyMkay at 2016-07-11 at 10:42 PM (2x Edited) |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 2 - 2016-07-11 at 10:29 PM
Hey but i changed it like you asked, you gave me plenty of chance's and i did not break it again. But honestly there was no rule broken for me to be banned on the call of duty server. All i did was ask for the new server ip. |
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| MrMackeyMkay BoardMod Location: Portland OR Posts: 823 |
# Answer: 3 - 2016-07-11 at 10:37 PM
Note: exhibit B above (Answer#2). I did give you plenty of chances to change the tag. You changed it to names like OTaCSupporter, and finally to Otac admin destroyer. We have no rule listed that you cannot have any one of these as your tag, hence the "border of acceptability" i mention above. And yet anyone knows that you do not fly another clan's tags without invite. Otac admin destroyer is a clear declaration of your intent. You end with your "what did I do?" statement: "All i did was ask for the new server ip." ------------------ Something Really Witty!!! Last edit by MrMackeyMkay at 2016-07-11 at 10:40 PM (3x Edited) |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 4 - 2016-07-11 at 11:08 PM
Woah there what are you talking about it was never OtaK Admin Destroyer it was McDoanldsWiFiAdminDestroyer. But you still didnt answer why i was banned on the call of duty server |
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| MrMackeyMkay BoardMod Location: Portland OR Posts: 823 |
# Answer: 5 - 2016-07-11 at 11:30 PM
Then you missed it. ------------------ Something Really Witty!!! |
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 Davide30541Commander  Location: OXFORD Posts: 891 |
# Answer: 6 - 2016-07-12 at 2:01 PM
someone needs to learn to read better and try to not be that guy as well. OR really really cant get it... |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 7 - 2016-07-12 at 5:58 PM
2016-07-12 at 2:01 PM - Davide30541: someone needs to learn to read better and try to not be that guy as well. OR really really cant get it... Hey sorry about this but your irrelevant. |
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| Meagamoo1996 Brigadier General I  Posts: 259 |
# Answer: 8 - 2016-07-12 at 6:03 PM
If you really wanted back into our server and teamspeak you wouldn't disrespect admins. Lol. So now your post is irrelevant and as far as we are concerned you won't be back in our server ever. |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 9 - 2016-07-12 at 6:05 PM
But seriously the teamspeak and the call of duty otak server are 2 different matters. I brought both of them up because i wanted help with both of them. I was banned on the call of duty server for asking for the new server ip, you had put it up in the chat the first time i asked. But when i told you that i didnt have enough time to get it down you ignored me. Btw i was using voice chat, How do i know you were ignoring me? Because i asked 2 more times for the ip then you banned me so you have had to be listening the whole time then just ban me. And this incident had time lapse of less than a minute. I bring this up because you only answer my question about team speak, you keep repeating yourself. And you gave false information too. |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space  Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 10 - 2016-07-12 at 8:09 PM
Enjoy your life. Best wishes. |
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| honda BoardMod Posts: 495 |
# Answer: 11 - 2016-07-12 at 8:44 PM
Havon you are arguing with four of the most important members of the clan, hope you know that. If I was you I could post message like this "I am sorry for everything I have done to you and the server and I beg for the second chance please! and I will behave, Promised. ------------------ 
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| Cpl. Punishment Master Sergeant III Posts: 109 |
# Answer: 12 - 2016-07-12 at 9:19 PM
This has to be the most argumentative ban appeal I have ever read. Don't think it's going to work your way haven.. ------------------ 
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 13 - 2016-07-12 at 11:49 PM
In my defense i dont think i was being respectful. Its just that Davide30541 was trying to give me advice on something that isn't needed "someone needs to learn to read better and try to not be that guy as well. OR really really cant get it..." to be honest someone would find that offensive. He told me to learn to read so i can find it, but even MrMackeyMkay who was very kind to reply to my forum post only answered the topic about the teamspeak. Even though he gave false information saying that i changed my name to OtakAdminDestroyer which was actually McDonaldsWiFiAdminDestroyer. Ill give you the names i changed them too [Otak]McDonaldsWiFi, [OtakSupporter]McDonaldsWiFi, and McDonaldsWiFiAdminDestroyer. And i wouldnt say this is a "argumentative ban appeal" its just that i asked a question many times but i cant get help on it i keep getting curved. I asked this before but got no reply. # Answer: 9 - 2016-07-12 at 6:05 PM But seriously the teamspeak and the call of duty otak server are 2 different matters. I brought both of them up because i wanted help with both of them. I was banned on the call of duty server for asking for the new server ip, you had put it up in the chat the first time i asked. But when i told you that i didnt have enough time to get it down you ignored me. Btw i was using voice chat, How do i know you were ignoring me? Because i asked 2 more times for the ip then you banned me so you have had to be listening the whole time then just ban me. And this incident had time lapse of less than a minute. I bring this up because you only answer my question about team speak, you keep repeating yourself. And you gave false information too. Also thanks for the advice Honda but i dont believe i was being disrespectful i also absolutely didnt do anything wrong on the otak server thanks again though. |
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| Meagamoo1996 Brigadier General I Posts: 259 |
# Answer: 14 - 2016-07-13 at 3:33 AM
You were banned on our server months ago. Shouldn't have been able to get back in. Banned again. Question answered. |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 15 - 2016-07-13 at 11:22 AM
Havon, Perhaps you are failing to see how your actions would be interpreted by most "rational clear thinking people" (RCTP) in similar circumstances. 1. Presumption - RCTP would not presume it is okay to wear the clan tag unless they were a clan member. Same goes for OTaCSupporter, RCTP would ask for permission, and the support would likely need to be verified or vouched for by clan member of sufficient rank or stature. 2. Embedded Phrasing - It is specious to suggest that embedding AdminDestroyer in ones name should be treated in context differently. You neglect the reality that even if I were stipulate for the sake of discussion that you have no malicious intent, each individual would have the inclination to interpret it as they see fit since the phrasing is left up to interpretation. McDonaldsWifiAdminDestroyer could be: * McDonalds the Wifi Admin Destroyer * McDonalds whose occupation is Wifi Admin is a Destroyer * McDonalds connected via Wifi intends to be an Admin Destroyer Or we can simply treat it as an embedded subliminal message: BitterSpockWifiYourBanned BitterSpockWifiYourIntentIsClearToUs BitterSpockWifiSoGoPlayPokemonGo BitterSpockWifiAndStopPostingYouTroll BitterSpockWifiWeCanAlsoBanYouFromTheFor umsToo BitterSpockWifiRecognizingWrongdoingAndS incereApologiesWorkBetter No I am sorry I do not see based on the above how <name>Wifi<phrase> should be considered <name><Wifi phrase> 3. Denial - Failure to accept that you have done anything wrong or recognizing that your actions could be perceived that way, and dismissive attitude toward valid points to the contrary. Again, Enjoy your life and best wishes.... Last edit by BitterSpock at 2016-07-13 at 11:35 AM (1x Edited) |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 16 - 2016-07-13 at 5:18 PM
Meagamoo1996 that was history i had cleared that up with another admin thats how i got unbanned. all your doing adding new context just so it best fits you, there is no rule that says i cant have AdminDestroyer. You told me to fix it from Otac, and otacsupporter and i did no questions asked. So i feel like you guys just did to do it, and also i thought we cleared up the team speak incident and you just keep bring it up i asked help for the call of duty server which i can not get anyhelp. Last edit by Havon_Frost at 2016-07-13 at 5:27 PM (3x Edited) |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 17 - 2016-07-13 at 5:21 PM
and i had no failure to accept that i did nothing wrong on teamspeak. I clearly said you gave me enough chance's but i will not accept that i did anything wrong on the server(not the ts server). |
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| Meagamoo1996 Brigadier General I Posts: 259 |
# Answer: 18 - 2016-07-13 at 6:17 PM
If you troll on the teamspeak you'll troll on the server. Simple. Preventative measures were taken to save our admins and players from dealing with you. |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 19 - 2016-07-13 at 6:36 PM
that doesnt make any sense i was asking for the new server ip and then i got banned |
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| Havon_Frost Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 20 - 2016-07-13 at 6:38 PM
and see you keep bring up team speak we went over that already |
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