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 GORGEPrivate First Class I  Posts: 11 |
# Thread - 2021-11-30 at 2:31 PM
Your Player Name: GnericGeorge Person you're reporting: PacoP-SEVILL Date & Time of offence: 30/11/2021 - 19:49 Details of the nature of the offence: I suspected PacoP of aimbotting when he managed to get an impossible shot across the map, so I decided to spectate him for a while to observe his actions. Whilst spectating I saw the typical aim spinning of the aimbot trying to pick it's target. At some points the aimbot couldn't decide which target so it kept flying back and forwards across the two targets. In the footage I have collected, it's clear that this is the side effects of an aimbot, the flicker is captured multiple times in the video below. There were no admins on at the time so nothing could be done. Note: The video is a short one and captures a lot of these flickers, but if the full clip is required I can upload it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR4jgmR9Ijw Thanks for your time. |
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 Nair0lFMaster of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 1 - 2021-11-30 at 3:02 PM
Hello GenericGeorge, thanks for your help, but i have to say, there is no proof for an Aimbot on this Video. Paco is a Regular Player for Ages now, that will not say someone will not cheat, but in this Case i can say, there is no evidence for an Aimbot. Thank you anyways Regards Florian |
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 La_Tatane_BRSergeant Major  Location: Asnières sur Seine Posts: 110 |
# Answer: 2 - 2021-11-30 at 4:53 PM
Hey GenericGeorge, I fully agree with Nairolf. That does not look at all like an aimbot, he got very few accurate shots, misses a lot. He's a bit campish but surely not a cheater ! |
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 Fender_StratCommander Posts: 370 |
# Answer: 3 - 2021-11-30 at 9:59 PM
Clean for me. Those weird spinnings that we see must be highly related to Paco's ping (144 ms) If I'm not wrong, he's from Spain, someone can correct me |
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 BitterSpockMaster of Time and Space  Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 4 - 2021-12-01 at 5:03 AM
I have not looked at the Video, but Paco is a long time regular with a great established track record. |
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 SarampionCorporal Posts: 23 |
# Answer: 5 - 2021-12-02 at 10:57 AM
2021-11-30 at 9:59 PM - JuampoSMR21: Clean for me. Those weird spinnings that we see must be highly related to Paco's ping (144 ms) If I'm not wrong, he's from Spain, someone can correct me I play with 220 ping and that does not happen to me (since one thing has nothing to do with the other), what you see in the video, from my point of view, is an aimbot trying to maintain fixation. Sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear, but the demo says it all. |
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| Willpoop Master Sergeant II Location: Uranus Posts: 104 |
# Answer: 6 - 2021-12-02 at 11:13 AM
Played with paco for a long time and never had any issues with him , yes he is from Spain |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 7 - 2021-12-02 at 11:18 AM
I have now seen the video ... what I observe is places where he jiggles the mouse as a trigger to "acquire nearest target". This looks suspicious to me. I want a demo *.dm_6 uploaded to TS lobby ALL DEMOS HERE , not a youtube video. I would like to see a new demo of other matches. |
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| GORGE Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 8 - 2021-12-02 at 11:33 AM
2021-12-02 at 10:57 AM - Sarampion: 2021-11-30 at 9:59 PM - JuampoSMR21: Clean for me. Those weird spinnings that we see must be highly related to Paco's ping (144 ms) If I'm not wrong, he's from Spain, someone can correct me I play with 220 ping and that does not happen to me (since one thing has nothing to do with the other), what you see in the video, from my point of view, is an aimbot trying to maintain fixation. Sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear, but the demo says it all. I have spectated people with high ping too, even myself I have 100-135 ping. I haven't seen this as a regular thing. That is what made me suspicious of the flicking. 2021-12-02 at 11:18 AM - BitterSpock: I have now seen the video ... what I observe is places where he jiggles the mouse as a trigger to "acquire nearest target". This looks suspicious to me. I want a demo *.dm_6 uploaded to TS lobby ALL DEMOS HERE , not a youtube video. I would like to see a new demo of other matches. Hi BitterSpock, I had no idea of the existence of the demo command. So unfortunately I do not have a demo file. Just a recording through obs. |
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| [duck]lola_brennt Commander  Posts: 368 |
# Answer: 9 - 2021-12-02 at 12:27 PM
Here' a little help, to do a recording... http://outtact.net/index.php?mod=board&action=thread&where=11 72 |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 10 - 2021-12-02 at 12:58 PM
These jiggels ,flicking or how you call it, ive seen in a lot of Demos, even from OTaC Admins, Members, when this should be an evidence for a Aimbot, then i am Santa Claus from now on  I will spectate and make a Demo too , if i saw him again playing. Last edit by Nair0lF at 2021-12-02 at 1:02 PM (1x Edited) |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 11 - 2021-12-02 at 5:19 PM
My thoughts are as follows: A: if he is already aimed at a spot, the wiggling does NOT bother me. B: if the wiggling allows you to quickly snap around to new targets with great precision, or to places where targets are hidden from view and about to appear, that bothers me |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 12 - 2021-12-02 at 5:52 PM
We are all Humans, so i could be wrong and it could be a evidence, it would not be the first one , if you have a chance to play it in slowmo, or reduced speed and you see something, i will say i was wrong and apologies. Cheats getting better every Day. |
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| Willpoop Master Sergeant II Location: Uranus Posts: 104 |
# Answer: 13 - 2021-12-02 at 6:02 PM
Just watched the video, the jiggling may be because he is behind something that may be interfering with his movement. The only time it does it is when he’s behind the box’s and on the cliff side next to something. If he is using an aimbot he should demand his money back. |
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 ANZAC351Colonel II  Location: On your six Posts: 240 |
# Answer: 14 - 2021-12-02 at 7:00 PM
What Will said. To me, it shows a player being cautious and not moving to far, unlike other aimbotters I have observed. If he was using, why was he not shooting through the smoke and making the odd ridiculous shots (no h/s ) and scoring more quickly than normal? |
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| GORGE Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 15 - 2021-12-03 at 1:12 PM
2021-12-02 at 5:52 PM - Nair0lF: We are all Humans, so i could be wrong and it could be a evidence, it would not be the first one , if you have a chance to play it in slowmo, or reduced speed and you see something, i will say i was wrong and apologies. Cheats getting better every Day. It's not your fault, cheats are getting better by the day. To be an expert on aimbotting, I suppose you'd have to actually use one. It's a bit like knowing your enemy by becoming your enemy. 2021-12-02 at 6:02 PM - Willpoop: Just watched the video, the jiggling may be because he is behind something that may be interfering with his movement. The only time it does it is when he’s behind the box’s and on the cliff side next to something. If he is using an aimbot he should demand his money back. I'm afraid that it carries on with the aim freaking out when he's out of cover, even on the next map. 2021-12-02 at 7:00 PM - ANZAC351: What Will said. To me, it shows a player being cautious and not moving to far, unlike other aimbotters I have observed. If he was using, why was he not shooting through the smoke and making the odd ridiculous shots (no h/s ) and scoring more quickly than normal? If you had a server you like to play on, but you need to use aimbot. You wouldn't exactly make it obvious to everyone. Most aimbots have different options on them, one of these options is legit mode, smooth and then the insane one. The legit and smooth one tries it's best to hide itself. But, he must not have set it up correctly. Because you can see his aim twitch between two targets that haven't came around the corner yet. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 16 - 2021-12-03 at 2:35 PM
Maybe we Admins should all get a Aimbot and have a look how something works, so i never use something like that, i didnt even know how to get a good hack ,not the cheap one you can download at some Website. |
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| GORGE Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 17 - 2021-12-03 at 3:05 PM
2021-12-03 at 2:35 PM - Nair0lF: Maybe we Admins should all get a Aimbot and have a look how something works, so i never use something like that, i didnt even know how to get a good hack ,not the cheap one you can download at some Website. I agree that admins should familiarise themselves with the hacks that are out there, maybe testing them out in a bot server to see how they work and how to spot the signs of their use. With cheats, the only way to really combat them is to understand them. Know your enemy and all. |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 18 - 2021-12-04 at 9:17 AM
To be clear, this does not look like the aim assist hacks I am used to seeing. This could just be OCD and instead of click a pen open closed you wiggle the mouse, or tap on your desk, or switch to pistol and back over and over. Which brings me back to my prior statement B: if the wiggling allows you to quickly snap around to new targets with great precision, or to places where targets are hidden from view and about to appear, that bothers me So unless he wiggles and his aim sharply starts pointing at enemies that were not in plain view then there is no issue, which is why I amd asking for a demo that shows that behavior over and over, not just once. I would be surprised if Paco were cheating, he has been around for ever and is likeable. I do not want this to be a witch hunt - play the game .... it is more fun. |
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| Nair0lF Master of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 19 - 2021-12-04 at 10:02 AM
Even for the fact it could be a hack to Show you nearby enemy, his Score is not concerning to do Action on him, he is not Dominating at all in his Gameplay. Bitter can set restrictions on him and any other Hackers, they wouldn't have no Fun any longer on they Server. |
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| GORGE Thread author Private First Class I Posts: 11 |
# Answer: 20 - 2021-12-04 at 11:14 AM
2021-12-04 at 9:17 AM - BitterSpock: To be clear, this does not look like the aim assist hacks I am used to seeing. This could just be OCD and instead of click a pen open closed you wiggle the mouse, or tap on your desk, or switch to pistol and back over and over. Which brings me back to my prior statement B: if the wiggling allows you to quickly snap around to new targets with great precision, or to places where targets are hidden from view and about to appear, that bothers me So unless he wiggles and his aim sharply starts pointing at enemies that were not in plain view then there is no issue, which is why I amd asking for a demo that shows that behavior over and over, not just once. I would be surprised if Paco were cheating, he has been around for ever and is likeable. I do not want this to be a witch hunt - play the game .... it is more fun. I'd like to rescind my report, though I sincerely believe he was using aimbot, I don't have a demo file for further analysis. The only other evidence I have of this happening more than once is in video format saved to my hard drive. I've set up a keybind to record any evidence I gather in the future to a demo file format. Thank you for your time and patience admins. |
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