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 TheEarlyBirdLt. Colonel  Location: The Great Nest Posts: 212 |
# Thread - 2022-08-03 at 1:10 PM
Your name: TheEarlyBird Reported player: Matuop Time of incident: 17:49pm - UK Time and onwards Description of incident: Started playing today and noticed this player getting very lucky kills, so I decided to hang back from spawning in and watch him. After seeing him always know when to wait behind cover, and when to proceed safely. I also see him aiming his crosshairs and adjusting it just before someone comes around the corner to match the height. He hides it well, so please take a good look. I wanted something to reference this too, so I put in the chat and accused him of cheating (After already recording a demo from spectator mode). I said I need more footage; to get in his head to make him try and hide it more. The second demo shows a completely different playstyle. I believe he turned off a few aspects of his cheats to lower his detection. Because he played so poorly, it was like he was putting on a show that he's a regular player. The third video is a small clip taken from when I was on the same team as him and stayed in death cam for a while to see if he'd turned it back on. Which he did. He was back to himself now he thought I was done. I have no reason to believe he's aim-botting, just the wallhacks. The demo files are here (https://drive.proton.me/urls/8ZRXYYTCB0# KWmNUHkygWWe), please watch them in order so you can get the full situation. Thanks, your resident cheater hater! ------------------ 
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 HelenBACKCorporal  Posts: 21 |
# Answer: 1 - 2022-08-03 at 3:37 PM
I'm not usually someone who suspects people of stuff...particularly since I've been accused of hacking every time I score really well once in a while - but I concur with Bird above that admins need to take a careful look at this guy and the game logs. He's scoring over 40 consistently and over 50+ often. I've spectated him in first person view and it's one shot one kill with really really difficult shots...many that I could not see how he was getting a lock on so fast. I'm not accusing him of hacking - but he is just getting some really outlier scores. At the very least - can we put some kind of restriction back on for players that keep going over 40 in more than 1 in 4 maps or something again. It might help keep it competitive Last edit by HelenBACK at 2022-08-03 at 3:45 PM (1x Edited) |
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# Answer: 2 - 2022-08-03 at 4:00 PM
Hello its me matuop, I played this game since it came out and I have a good command of the weapons I always use in games (carbine, bolt, sgt, ppsh). I know I'm not a recurrent player and it can generate suspicions that I always, or almost always, kill more than 40 per game, but it's just the way I play. I don't like camping, or keeping an angle, that's why I'm moving all over the map, and that's also why I get to die a lot in every game. I don't think it's fair that only some fragments are shown where you can see some weird gameplay, if the person who made this report could see that I literally walk past some enemies and I just don't see them, or that I'm aiming at an enemy but I don't shoot because I don't see him (I should see a full recorded game). Also to say that I play with 200ms. If you want some proof from me I'll be happy to give it to you. Last edit by MatuOP at 2022-08-03 at 4:17 PM (1x Edited) |
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 Aussiekille8Captain  Posts: 173 |
# Answer: 3 - 2022-08-04 at 1:29 AM
so in Matuop-2After accusation and knowing he's being watched video 2. after pew-pew said I say Helenback die and did not see him there he gameplay changes. in video 1 aka Matuop-1Not known he's being recorded he wall into a hanger shot a guy up top then went under and lay down the player come around the corner he kill the player got up as he gets up he turn around and shot and get a hitmaker. now my question is how did he know that player was there. as you did not see the player there when he walked into the hanger and that? Last edit by Aussiekille8 at 2022-08-04 at 6:12 AM (3x Edited) |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 4 - 2022-08-04 at 11:04 AM
I was playing at the same time Bird was recording yesterday. I agree with Helen that there is something not quite right and he was making shots that seemed impossible. He killed me multiple times in Sub Pens where I couldn't see him and there should have been no way he could see me. He has done similar across all maps within the last week or so. I did spec him for a while, no recording though, and he made several kills where he couldn't even see anyone. Very, very suspicious. His gameplay is ruining the fun if I'm being honest. I will also say that the prior map yesterday when his score was outrageously lopsided his gameplay was totally different than it was after he got called out. I noticed the same thing last week. Can't remember what map it was, but his score was 20-1 or maybe even higher. Several of us called him out and someone, don't remember who, said they were going to start recording. As soon as that happened his playstyle changed and he began dying at what I would consider a normal rate. I'm not going to pull any punches here so I'm just going to say it, I 100% believe he is cheating, but when called out begins to play different so as to avoid a ban. We don't need people like that on the server. Why anyone ever cheats at a game I will never understand as it is something that is supposed to be fun. I guess maybe their ego needs stroked or something. |
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| TheEarlyBird Thread author Lt. Colonel Location: The Great Nest Posts: 212 |
# Answer: 5 - 2022-08-04 at 11:04 AM
The first clip labelled 1 is the evidence of cheating, which will need to be carefully examined as it's quite subtle and the length is around a full games worth; up to when people started voicing their concerns about him out loud, and gives plenty of how this player worked. The second one is a quick show of what your gameplay then looked like after you were called out in the chat a few times and knew you were being watched. You were a lot more careful, making sure to get yourself killed more to balance the numbers out. The third demo is another quick show a little bit after, when the heat died down a bit I wasn't in spectator mode I was actively playing with the person on my team and I stopped for a few minutes to get some comparison gameplay. (The second and third clips are a comparison to the first.) I agree with Helen, in looking at the logs you'll see a fuller picture of the amount of kills this person is obtaining compared to deaths. Which is why I'm confused with your reply above @MatuOP where in it you state 2022-08-03 at 4:00 PM - MatuOP: "and that's also why I get to die a lot in every game." I saw that you actually didn't die all that much at all. UNTIL you started to get called out. [Edit 1 - Changed quote text colour to be easier to see] ------------------
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| HelenBACK Corporal Posts: 21 |
# Answer: 6 - 2022-08-04 at 12:45 PM
Again - I don;t like to accuse anyone of hacking because it's true that the game has been around for a long time. On this server there are a TON of really good players that have been playing almost every day since it came out. The problem is that I've never seen this guy on our server and now he's scoring 40 and 50+ every game. Even our absolute best players do not have that level of OWNING the server every day on every map. I'm on Nightfire RIGHT NOW and he has 59 kills with minutes to go. Now he is lying down in the corner and not killing anyone because of the limit. If he has naturally this good then he is the greatest COD player ever in the history of this server - or any I've ever been on...and I've played for 12 years. I thought that the reason we set limits on certain players was because when one player totally dominates every map - it's no fun for everyone else. Just to look at how MUCH of an outlier he is - the best player on the server for score per minute (with more that a few minutes of gameplay) is Jon-Tron. rk | Name | score | time | score/min 38 | Jon_Tron | 109285 | 100.92 | 18.05 Who is next? rk | Name | score | time | score/min 342 | matuop | 15513 | 14.58 | 17.73 That is a huge leap in skill for 14 hours. So - I am raising an alarm. I don't care of he's naturally the Greatest Player of All Time or a Hacker - he's going to kill the server. Can someone set a limit on him? Last edit by HelenBACK at 2022-08-04 at 2:44 PM (4x Edited) |
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# Answer: 7 - 2022-08-04 at 1:21 PM
1- I'm not one to read chat and the only time I was told I was being recorded for supposed hacks was in Hangar, and yes I felt weird and nervous that they would do that. 2-I've been playing this game since I was 8 years old, I basically grew up with it, it's not a justification but I think I know the game pretty well. Plus I never had a permanent nickname and I play it in 1 year intervals because it gets boring after a while. 3-Regarding the "impossible" shots or that I don't see the players when I shoot, actually in every map I do the same route aiming at the same places (Not always, but for me it's the norm) Also I don't know what you see but I can see perfectly well some players that probably you can't, but as I said in the first comment there are times when I have the sight on one and I don't shoot because I just don't see him. 4-Last thing is that I constantly use the shouting of enemies as a guide to where they are, just hearing a shout of "Grenade" "They're coming for us" "They've got us cornered" is useful information for me to know where the enemy might be. I said it in the first comment, if you want any proof from me I'm happy to give it. Whether it's playing a map or whatever. Last edit by MatuOP at 2022-08-04 at 1:30 PM (2x Edited) |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 8 - 2022-08-04 at 2:08 PM
2022-08-04 at 12:45 PM - HelenBACK: Again - I don;t like to accuse anyone of hacking because it's true that the game has been around for a long time. On this server there are a TON of really good players that have been playing almost every day since it came out. The problem is that I've never seen this guy on our server and now he's scoring 40 and 50+ every game. Even our absolute best players do not have that level of OWNING the server every day on every map. I'm on Nightfire RIGHT NOW and he has 59 kills with minutes to go. Now he is lying down in the corner and not killing anyone because of the limit. If he has naturally this good then he is the greatest COD player ever in the history of this server - or any I've ever been on...and I've played for 12 years. I thought that the reason we set limits on certain players was because when one player totally dominates every map - it's no fun for everyone else. Just to look at how MUCH of an outlier he is - the best player on the server for score per minute (with more that a few minutes of gameplay) is Jon-Tron. rk | Name | score | time | score/min 38 | Jon_Tron | 109285 | 00.92 | 18.05 Who is next? rk | Name | score | time | score/min 342 | matuop | 15513 | 14.58 | 17.73 That is a huge leap in skill for 14 hours. So - I am raising an alarm. I don't care of he's naturally the Greatest Player of All Time or a Hacker - he's going to kill the server. Can someone set a limit on him? I was on Nitefire at the same time Helen. He was 57-17 with minutes left like you said. I quit after he killed me the 3rd time, one shot, through a wall where he couldn't have known I was, or had any way to see me. Last edit by 1000 Faces at 2022-08-04 at 2:18 PM (1x Edited) |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 9 - 2022-08-04 at 2:56 PM
Another thing is that when called out, his playstyle changes. When admins are on with the OTAC prefix in front of their name his playstyle also changes. Now, when sponsored admins are on, that isn't the case. I guess he hasn't spent enough time to know who they are yet. What those things tell me is that he is fully aware that if he gets caught, he will get the ban hammer, so he changes his playstyle. Why he can't just play normal all the time is something I don't understand. Again, as I said earlier, it must be an ego thing. |
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# Answer: 10 - 2022-08-04 at 3:06 PM
Well, I'm not going to say anything more until an admin wants me to, as it's clear that here they are only guided by isolated shots or "game modes" (?) and not by specific things. I'm more active playing if you want to remove your doubts or on the contrary have more with your subjetive accusations then spectate me a couple of games, by the way greet me. Last edit by MatuOP at 2022-08-04 at 3:07 PM (1x Edited) |
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| Aussiekille8 Captain Posts: 173 |
# Answer: 11 - 2022-08-04 at 7:04 PM
matuop as a admin of otac can you asking me this question Matuop-1Not known he's being recorded he wall into a hanger shot a guy up top then went under and lay down the player come around the corner he kill the player got up as he gets up he turn around and shot and get a hitmaker. now my question is how did he know that player was there. as you did not see the player there when he walked into the hanger and that? |
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# Answer: 12 - 2022-08-04 at 9:32 PM
I saw him walking by the right front window, you can see him too in the demo |
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| Aussiekille8 Captain Posts: 173 |
# Answer: 13 - 2022-08-04 at 10:29 PM
ok i watch the demo and saw that so thank you for cleaning that up. some of the video look like walling but the other admins can make that. i play he need to be turn down the limits for a while Last edit by Aussiekille8 at 2022-08-04 at 10:46 PM (1x Edited) |
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# Answer: 14 - 2022-08-04 at 10:52 PM
Ok, no need for that just got kicked for the first time 24 hrs, since the admin couldn't stand that I answered him that I knew the rule (i killed someone with pistol but not in the same roof, instead of explaining directly to me, I am thrown out for 24 hours), in the next game I tell him that I don't want him to kick me out and he does it haha. |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 15 - 2022-08-04 at 11:51 PM
2022-08-04 at 10:52 PM - MatuOP: Ok, no need for that just got kicked for the first time 24 hrs, since the admin couldn't stand that I answered him that I knew the rule (i killed someone with pistol but not in the same roof, instead of explaining directly to me, I am thrown out for 24 hours), in the next game I tell him that I don't want him to kick me out and he does it haha. That's because any time someone mentions anything to you in game, you have an attitude. |
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| TheEarlyBird Thread author Lt. Colonel Location: The Great Nest Posts: 212 |
# Answer: 16 - 2022-08-05 at 11:20 AM
2022-08-04 at 11:51 PM - 1000 Faces: 2022-08-04 at 10:52 PM - MatuOP: Ok, no need for that just got kicked for the first time 24 hrs, since the admin couldn't stand that I answered him that I knew the rule (i killed someone with pistol but not in the same roof, instead of explaining directly to me, I am thrown out for 24 hours), in the next game I tell him that I don't want him to kick me out and he does it haha. That's because any time someone mentions anything to you in game, you have an attitude. I noticed this too, whenever asked about how he did this or that. He'd get preposterously defensive, and antagonistic. ------------------
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| HelenBACK Corporal Posts: 21 |
# Answer: 17 - 2022-08-05 at 12:01 PM
Well - to be fair - I can see why someone would feel defensive when there's a forum post accusing them of cheating. Again - I have no idea whether or not you are cheating Matuop (and welcome, BTW) - but I'm sure you can see that you are absolutely dominating the server for the last several days. You may not be aware of this - but your scores are extremely unusual for this server...which is rightly why everyone is suspicious. I can see why you have stopped playing this game in the past because you were bored. It must be very boring to play a game where you score so SO much better than other players. It's remarkable how quickly you were able to get back to being dominant after not playing for a while. Usually someone who comes on in a short period of time and plays this well always ends up being proven to use hacks - so apologies if it is just extreme skill - but you do not know just how much of an outlier you are. You may not realize this - but when one player SO dominates a server - it becomes very boring for the rest of the players as well. Usually OTaC sets limits on players who score so highly in order to balance the server and make it fun again for everyone - including the high scoring player who now must be challenged to use different weapons or keep their scores under a threshold. That is what I am advocating for here. Set limits on a consistently dominating player like yourself. |
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 Rustyer2666Corporal Posts: 22 |
# Answer: 18 - 2022-08-07 at 9:50 AM
As someone that has been accused of cheating I've played a few maps with you, matuop no one is that consistent even me and some how you are better then me at the maps im the best at and dodged playing sub pens with me. You behavior is suspect even to me. |
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 Mr.MTipCommander Posts: 348 |
# Answer: 19 - 2022-08-07 at 10:04 AM
Ive spectated this Matuop player several times for consecutive maps and I honestly cant say Ive seen much thats suspect from him. At most hes very quick to snap onto players even in good cover. If he had a wallhack or aimbot he wouldnt be walking past the amount of players Ive witnessed him pass by. I can say however that Ive noticed since all the posts in forums about Matuop have started hes become absolutely pedestrian in comparison to his usual high level play. That is the most suspect thing to me. Maybe hes just lighting it up when admins arent around?? |
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| TheEarlyBird Thread author Lt. Colonel Location: The Great Nest Posts: 212 |
# Answer: 20 - 2022-08-07 at 11:21 AM
2022-08-07 at 10:04 AM - Mr.MTip: Ive spectated this Matuop player several times for consecutive maps and I honestly cant say Ive seen much thats suspect from him. At most hes very quick to snap onto players even in good cover. If he had a wallhack or aimbot he wouldnt be walking past the amount of players Ive witnessed him pass by. I can say however that Ive noticed since all the posts in forums about Matuop have started hes become absolutely pedestrian in comparison to his usual high level play. That is the most suspect thing to me. Maybe hes just lighting it up when admins arent around?? You're absolutely right, as soon as there's an OTaC present or someone official enough for him to notice, he'll rein it in. Which means the only way to view him unbiasedly is to go 'undercover' as it were on an alt account. ------------------
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