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 Therm1tePrivate First Class Posts: 8 |
# Thread - 2023-01-11 at 6:52 AM
Hi, I'm Therm1te! I wanted to know the reason for my ban. At the beginning I would like to say that I am a boy from the interior of Brazil, I live in a place where our life is not one of the best, and that is why I do not have equipment to record, for example my monitor. Could someone help me please? I know a Brazilian or Portuguese Admin "Bols 3.0" and he can help me right now because I don't have good English. Last edit by Therm1te at 2023-01-11 at 6:53 AM (1x Edited)
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 BitterSpockMaster of Time and Space  Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 1 - 2023-01-11 at 9:18 AM
A player submitted a compelling demo that allegedly showed you playing with what appeared to be a wall hack. I reviewed the demo myself and agreed with the player's assertion. It totally looks like you were using a wall hack. Thus I applied the permanent ban to your GUID. |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 2 - 2023-01-11 at 10:59 AM
Can I see this demo where I was being accused of hacking? I bought this game on steam because I couldn't stand playing Call of Duty 2 anymore, where they also accused me of hacking because I arrived aiming at the places before the person arrived/appeared. In every FPS I'm like this, I know the map first and do things that appear to be "hack". Every game I'm accused mainly of wall hacking, despite having good aim, my sense of FPS is great, and I can't stand buying a game anymore and being banned from it, I just wanted to play in peace but I never can, I get home from work and I come to play on the server and now I'm banned. Last edit by Therm1te at 2023-01-11 at 11:03 AM (1x Edited) |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 3 - 2023-01-11 at 11:29 AM
Hi Therm1te, Sure, in the interest of transparency.... https://drive.proton.me/urls/5V8JBFAR7G# UIZZVHFo0qP6 |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 4 - 2023-01-11 at 11:48 AM
how do I run the demo in cod waw, i only know it in cod2 |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 5 - 2023-01-11 at 3:14 PM
If in game you do: record foobar /stoprecord it creates a foobar.dm_6 in a folder called AppData\Local\Activision\CoDWaW\player\d emos copy the file to that folder (rename it to an easy name like myself.dm_6 Then open the game anew and type in the console /demo myself |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 6 - 2023-01-12 at 5:50 AM
Hello BitterSpock, Good Morning! as I told you I'm going to be targeted in all the places where there may be someone, and this looks like MiniMapa or Wall hack, in every game I do these things! An example of suspicion was when I killed "OTac Angus" I had heard him making noise so I went after him. What can I do to show that I'm clean, I make these moves all the time, I even shoot at walls where there might be someone, I've done worse things and I've never been reported. In COD2 I was banned by MiniMapa/Wallhack too, even sending videos showing that I wasn't using anything I was unfairly banned too. I just want to play in peace, I left cod2 because of the bans for no reason and now in cod waw also apparently I'm in the same situation. This is my channel where I show some videos that I'm clean and I was banned right away on the Stalingrad map but I didn't record it, the Admins are the Tag Red, White and Blue Tag: https://youtube.com/@user-ps3xh4mh8g what do I need to do to show that I'm not using anything and just luck often and notion of play? Last edit by Therm1te at 2023-01-12 at 5:53 AM (2x Edited) |
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| Angus Master Sergeant III Posts: 106 |
# Answer: 7 - 2023-01-12 at 8:31 AM
yeah nice try. I believe you use a wallhack, which you used on me several times over several maps. Several admins were watching. So i suggest you move on, buy a new guid and stop cheating, or go play a different server. |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 8 - 2023-01-12 at 9:32 AM
This is very unfair, banning the player for being a great player, I know the game, I know the maps and respawn where it can come from and everything, apparently I'm the only one who studies this in games, you play just to play and when Do you think a player is accused of hacking? I bought the game because I love world war, why would use hack? I play CS:GO and there I'm also accused of wall hack because I have a great understanding of FPS. Last edit by Therm1te at 2023-01-12 at 9:34 AM (1x Edited) |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 9 - 2023-01-12 at 11:59 AM
So okay let's say for the sake of argument that I was to believe that you are not hacking and instead what I am seeing is: * Superior situational awareness * Immediate reaction to sound cues not just visual ones * Well-honed aiming skills and a negligible reaction time * Detailed understanding of all spawn points, choke points, likely places people tend to be located * A superior gaming rig with the best CPU and GPU and monitor * A superior headset * A great effective ping - after ping compensation by the game - possibly from optimal geographic location * Direct wired devices so no wireless lag * You are in top physical condition * You have intense focus and drive to succeed and dominate * You were bred form superior DNA - and only eat healthy foods * You have made modifications your config_mp.cfg file to adjust certain parameters of the game Each one of these things can give you an advantage as they apply to you. Some things are also available to others too, somethings are just characteristics of the player themselves. So we need to talk about fairness. As a matter of policy I do not want to ban a player unless they are hacking or are problematic for other reasons. You say you keep getting banned wrongly for being to good and somehow that is unfair to you. And now here you are ... AGAIN .... getting banned wrongly by ME and that is unfair to you AGAIN. Consider the following: * Player A - uses a wall hack and can dominate like crazy - admin have to get out of game and watch/record this player, regulars on the server complain that there is a hacker and he needs to be dealt with. This player becomes a focus of later follow-up and documentation in the forums. * Player B - uses amazing skill and can dominate like crazy - admin have to get out of game and watch/record this player, regulars on the server complain that there is a hacker and he needs to be dealt with. This player becomes a focus of later follow-up and documentation in the forums. There is literally NO DIFFERENCE in terms of the admin burden it causes and the negative effect it has on server population if we are perceived to "allow hackers" to play .... Allowing and ALLEGED hacker is the same as allowing a hacker. So in terms of "fairness" we want players that are not crushing the competition so dominantly that admin don't have to stop playing and babysit you. It is not fair to the admin playing. Also in terms of fairness, if the rest of the players believe you are hacking, they are taking time out of their games to babysit you, like the player that recorded the demo that was used as justification to ban you. I am open to the idea that as bad as it looks I got it wrong, and I could see a path to unbanning you. However, based on the disruption you are causing to admin and other players (it is the same effort for all involved if they THINK you are hacking, just as much as if you are actually hacking), Something would have to change on your end to proactively diminish your perceived dominance - and get you off of everyones' radar. I can think of some weird suggestions like: * play with no sound * swap which hand controls the mouse and keyboard But more practically I would need to do the following Option X: 1. Thermite - or any name like that should not be used anymore - since people will still watch you even if tone it down. 2. In the game there is a LEVEL for each player which basically says in the last 100 matches, how many were you the #1 player for the match. I don't know what LEVEL you are right now, but let's say I do a forward looking count of that. YOUR LEVEL should never go above 10 (so don't finish first in 90% of matches, tone it down and let someone else win). 3. I impose some other limits like lower the bolt switch or KD max limits. Right now you are like that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer was taking karate lessons and was dominating against the small children also in his karate class. In golf there is the concept of handicaps so that stronger players can compete with less-skilled players. Casinos will boot you for "counting cards" for those with the capacity to do so effectively. Option Y: You can always go get a new copy of the game with a new GUID and play as a different player and you would get all new consideration based on you own merit. I am not opposed to the X route and if you are still disruptive under a new name I can re-apply the ban and you do Option Y as many times as you want. In terms of fairness, the time it has taken me to respond to your post and watch demos of you is time in my life I can't get back. Same for all other admin and players involved. Your dominance is the problem - hack or no hack since it has a ripple effect into time spent by others So tell me what you think and how we should proceed * Option X * Option Y * Option Z - we part ways Last edit by BitterSpock at 2023-01-12 at 12:04 PM (2x Edited) |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 10 - 2023-01-13 at 7:30 AM
Hi BitterSpock, I just want to be unbanned from the server, and not think about it anymore, get home from work and want to play a game I've always dreamed of and be banned and sad. I could play 1, 2 maps and leave the server later, keep the KD/Limit like this where I can kill 40+ in this case it would be 1 to 2 games just because it would leave on its own without punishments, what do you think? |
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 legi_istraCommander Posts: 326 |
# Answer: 11 - 2023-01-13 at 9:10 AM
hi first think about how you acted ... , we will do what with you ! Time will tell the result ! |
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 TheEarlyBirdLt. Colonel  Location: The Great Nest Posts: 212 |
# Answer: 12 - 2023-01-13 at 11:18 AM
I looked at your responses and could almost be convinced that you are just a good player. But I can't get it out of my mind how rapidly your skill has changed. One day you were an average player. Then, it seemed to flip almost overnight. The logs can show this if they can go far back enough. ------------------ 
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2904 |
# Answer: 13 - 2023-01-13 at 1:15 PM
Earlybird says this: One day you were an average player. Then, it seemed to flip almost overnight Interesting - I have data on this Nope - he has been pretty consistent in dominating since 2020 He was #1 player most times unless he joined the match late Last edit by BitterSpock at 2023-01-13 at 1:43 PM (2x Edited) |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 14 - 2023-01-13 at 5:22 PM
So apparently I'm still banned? why I don't really use hacks and I'm just a good player. What is the final situation? |
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 Saltyfrog1Private First Class I Posts: 12 |
# Answer: 15 - 2023-01-13 at 6:12 PM
Your banned bruh b bye..... |
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| _Humber Lt. Colonel II Posts: 220 |
# Answer: 16 - 2023-01-13 at 6:34 PM
2023-01-12 at 11:59 AM - BitterSpock: So we need to talk about fairness. As a matter of policy I do not want to ban a player unless they are hacking or are problematic for other reasons. You say you keep getting banned wrongly for being to good and somehow that is unfair to you. And now here you are ... AGAIN .... getting banned wrongly by ME and that is unfair to you AGAIN. Consider the following: * Player A - uses a wall hack and can dominate like crazy - admin have to get out of game and watch/record this player, regulars on the server complain that there is a hacker and he needs to be dealt with. This player becomes a focus of later follow-up and documentation in the forums. * Player B - uses amazing skill and can dominate like crazy - admin have to get out of game and watch/record this player, regulars on the server complain that there is a hacker and he needs to be dealt with. This player becomes a focus of later follow-up and documentation in the forums. There is literally NO DIFFERENCE in terms of the admin burden it causes and the negative effect it has on server population if we are perceived to "allow hackers" to play .... Allowing and ALLEGED hacker is the same as allowing a hacker. .... So in terms of "fairness" we want players that are not crushing the competition so dominantly that admin don't have to stop playing and babysit you. It is not fair to the admin playing. Your dominance is the problem - hack or no hack since it has a ripple effect into time spent by others [/quote] I have no desire to interfere in the interaction between bitterspock and thermite, however I see some interesting parallels here between Thermite and Rustyer. First the explanation "I am not cheating, I am just SO good." Then the claim that they know every nuance of the game and every move that the opposition players will make. (which may have some merit to it). An interesting deviation is that Rustyer did state that he has the best high end equipment, whereas Thermite states that he is from an area where life is tough and he does not have the equipment to record, leaving us to infer that his is not the best high end equipment. Regardless I can only concur with Bitterspock's statement:- There is literally NO DIFFERENCE in terms of the admin burden it causes and the negative effect it has on server population if we are perceived to "allow hackers" to play .... Allowing and ALLEGED hacker is the same as allowing a hacker. .... So in terms of "fairness" we want players that are not crushing the competition so dominantly that admin don't have to stop playing and babysit you. It is not fair to the admin playing. |
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| Therm1te Thread author Private First Class Posts: 8 |
# Answer: 17 - 2023-01-14 at 12:50 PM
I wanted other people not to enter the conversation so as not to disturb my problem anymore, please if possible not to comment on unnecessary things I will be grateful. I'm just waiting for answers from BitterSpock he's helping me at the moment. |
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| ANZAC351 Colonel II  Location: On your six Posts: 240 |
# Answer: 18 - 2023-01-14 at 5:01 PM
2023-01-13 at 5:22 PM - Therm1te: So apparently I'm still banned? why I don't really use hacks and I'm just a good player. What is the final situation? Ahh, so you do then use them then, thanks for the clarification.... |
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 Mr.MTipCommander Posts: 348 |
# Answer: 19 - 2023-01-14 at 6:13 PM
Data aside, I have to agree with Early Bird in a way. Though I dont agree with his almost overnight assessment. Thermite has 3 or 4 bad maps every day he plays. The rest of the time he tops the map but I dont think hes outstanding by any means anyways. So I say lift the bloody ban. He wasnt even that good when he was using a hack. He'll be cannon fodder now with all eyes on him. Assuming he stops using his hacks. The janky little shite he is. We could always ban him again right? We have the evidence he does cheat so at worst... we cant take him at his word anymore... and maybe he does it again. At best .... we somehow polish a turd and keep player base up. Honestly, hes not that good even with the hacks |
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 Fender_StratCommander Posts: 370 |
# Answer: 20 - 2023-01-14 at 8:45 PM
TBH, I saw the demo, but I dont think hes hacking. Anyway, hacking or being too good trigger the same alarm, and create the same environment of confusion. I agree with Mr.MTip about lifting the ban. He just needs to tone it down. Switch to shotgun in case of high KD difference or high kills (give deaths, every death you give is a warm smile for a casual player) |
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