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La_Tatane_BR


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# Answer: 21 - 2023-09-29 at 12:03 PM
2023-09-22 at 12:08 AM - Mr.MTip:
the old Bk servers had friendly fire enabled. Two team kills in a row and you got the boot. Wasnt as big an issue as anyone might think it could be. Helped with the flow of things


I think the same, many years ago, I used to play on BarRoomRats server which was FF on, bolts only and two friendly kills and you were gone for no time. This would be, in my opinion, the best way to avoid silly players having fun killing teammates.


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# Answer: 22 - 2023-09-30 at 5:55 PM
Thanks for the input folks, I appreciate it greatly.

Spock, will you be able to set that up in the Bot soon so that we can toggle it on for Fridays? Looking for a timeframe if possible, and thanks


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# Answer: 23 - 2023-09-30 at 6:54 PM
Sorry voodoo .... I am crazy busy ... just bought a house - busy painting and fixing things.
I will see if I can push to get it ready in time for Oct 6, 2023

Please ping me on telegram on Wednesday to nudge me along


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# Answer: 24 - 2023-10-01 at 12:30 AM
Congrats on the new house


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# Answer: 25 - 2023-10-01 at 5:28 AM
Hey congrats on the new house, I can imagine that you're running yourself ragged getting everything looked after. I'll give you a nudge on Wed.

Isn't moving fun


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# Answer: 26 - 2023-10-07 at 8:42 AM
Bot commands added:

!ff on
!ff off
!ff share
!ff reflect

Setting takes effect on NEXT map


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# Answer: 27 - 2023-10-07 at 11:31 AM
2023-10-07 at 2:42 PM - BitterSpock:
Bot commands added:

!ff on
!ff off
!ff share
!ff reflect

Setting takes effect on NEXT map


Awesome!!! TY so much


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# Answer: 28 - 2023-10-07 at 3:59 PM
thanks Bitter, it was a success, it has been a funny gameplay


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# Answer: 29 - 2023-10-07 at 7:02 PM
2023-10-07 at 9:59 PM - Fender_Strat:
thanks Bitter, it was a success, it has been a funny gameplay


I'm second guessing myself after doing so much friendly fire. And my strategy of blind fire and nades is very nail biting all in all fun experience


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# Answer: 30 - 2023-10-07 at 8:32 PM
Tom, thanks for setting up the bot for Friendly Fire. I think it's a hit so far, seems as though everyone was enjoying it.


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# Answer: 31 - 2023-10-10 at 11:08 AM
Did you use reflect, on, or share ?


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# Answer: 32 - 2023-10-10 at 11:47 AM
2023-10-10 at 5:08 PM - BitterSpock:
Did you use reflect, on, or share ?


Reflected and shared have been used and abused(Me shooting through walls has all but stopped ). Not sure if I've seen the ON setting as of yet though. It's a great addition, which I think should be used sparingly like Fridays as the topic suggests. My favourite is shared.


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# Answer: 33 - 2023-10-11 at 8:48 AM
Reflect is my favourite stops team players hiding and firing through me and get me killed.
More fun playing like that now for me. I like my slow moving and don't need to worry any
more being used as cover.


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# Answer: 34 - 2023-10-12 at 11:21 AM
2023-10-11 at 2:48 PM - Hans:
Reflect is my favourite stops team players hiding and firing through me and get me killed.
More fun playing like that now for me. I like my slow moving and don't need to worry any
more being used as cover.


You make great points, I just get scared with reflected as friendlies can walk into your nade, get you killed for it with impunity


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# Answer: 35 - 2023-10-13 at 11:10 AM
Hence u only throw a nade when you actually confirmed enemy is there. Thats a tactical nade and
not a lucky one.


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# Answer: 36 - 2023-10-13 at 3:48 PM
Is it possible to create a legend on teamspeak for all the modes that we activate or not on the server. like a hunting rifle or bolt action weapon with chin or not, pump shotgun mode without large and much more


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# Answer: 37 - 2023-10-15 at 10:20 AM
There is a legend in TS Arcadien, it's in the main lobby folder


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# Answer: 38 - 2023-11-02 at 1:46 PM
Update for Friendly Fire.

It seems as though it's being received quite well and our numbers are certainly up during daytime hours (GMT-4) in North America. I've been running it during the day and it's being turned off during the evening as the evening crowd has had good numbers and most of them don't prefer it.

I know that the original idea had been for FF Fridays but seeing the influx of newer players who enjoy the added touch of realism I thought that I'd run it for a few weeks during the day, and I'm glad that I did.

Now we need to work on getting some of these people into OTaC as members.


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# Answer: 39 - 2023-11-02 at 2:52 PM
So the original suggestion was for Friendly Fire Fridays. However, over the past couple of weeks, it seems that FF is on every day. One day about a week ago (not a Friday) an Admin (who shall remain nameless) made a rare appearance in game, did not come into teamspeak, did not consult with the several other admins who were already in game and in TS, but immediately turned on FF. Had he spoken to us, he would have learnt that we, for a number of reasons, had earlier chosen to turn FF off. He later came into TS and argued that having FF on had significantly increased the number of players using the server. His argument is not logical. The influx in player numbers of recent weeks has been consistent when FF is either OFF or ON and therefore more likely due to other causes. Now I am okay with having FF Fridays, but not FF everyday. I also suggest that when an admin decides to turn FF ON, regardless of what day it is, they turn it OFF when they are leaving the game.


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# Answer: 40 - 2023-11-03 at 9:45 AM
Humber, that admin was me and my appearances in game are anything but rare. I don't usually play in the evening, that is correct. In answer to your criticism I would say that I don't normally see you in game during the daytime when i'm on so i'm not sure how you can discount my assertions that many are enjoying friendly fire and that it has made a difference in our attendance.
Now just to remind you, I did come into TS immediately after turning FF on as per request by Jman. The very first thing that I said as I came in, after being jumped on by two or three voices was that I'm not here to argue and I will not entertain the idea of arguing. I said that I am willing to discuss any aspect of this with anyone. Yes, I did error in turning it on without asking and I apologised for not checking of which you are aware because you were in TS at that time. I had a discussion with Jman regarding this and explained why I was running it daily, which nobody else has had an issue with. There is an off switch and can be used as easily as the on command so I don't see a problem there.
The entire idea here is to try different things to make an older game a bit more fresh.
I have tried to initiate various things over the last 2 years including admin meetings, COD4 server, running different weapons on odd maps etc and I always hear the same damned thing "that won't work", "Oh no not shotguns", "not this map" and on and on and on. What I do not see is very much help in trying out these things except for a very few interested admin.
Friendly Fire is an added attractant to the game and does not in any way take anything away from it. It actually lends to the realism factor that OTaC has been trying to achieve with our ruleset and weapons limiting. This isn't a catastrophe, and it isn't detrimental to the game. You're an admin, if when you come in and there are no other admin, or if the guests would like it turned off then by all means turn it off. You do have that ability. If those who play in the evening prefer to have it off then turn it off, it's very simple to do.
Yes, I had initially suggested it to be a Friday event, but with so many enjoying it I felt that running it during the day wouldn't cause any issues.
This isn't about what I like, as I said during the discussion which you heard. I also said that to you yesterday in TS when you mentioned FF. It has to do with what seems to be best for OTaC and the server as a whole. Have a look at my scores sometime, i'm in daily. You'll soon notice that I spend a great deal of my time actually admining, welcoming new players, setting up different maps with odd weapons and basically doing what I can to make OTaC server an enjoyable experience for all who join!


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