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Mr.MTip


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# Thread - 2020-11-02 at 7:47 AM
A couple days ago and first thing in the morning about 6 AM my time (October 31st, 2020) I was banned by Ghost for reasons Im still unclear on. I had a 10 kill streak with about 12 players on and he thought I shouldnt be using an STG. Not all of my kills towards the 10 were with that gun. I argued that the gun is very much allowed in game at anytime. I picked up several other weapons during that time and continued on but fell short of a 15 streak. He refused to see my point, I informed him he could make a formal complaint on the forums if he pleased and instead chose to outright permanently ban me. We had a short "conversation" on TS about it which mostly consisted of him talking over me. The point he tried to make was that I was somehow detrimental to the player base of the server because of the killstreak with that gun. I did then, as I do now, fully disagree. He also made no attempt at the time in game to invite me into teamspeak to discuss it. I had no desire to be on TS at that time in the first place. It was 6 AM my coffee was brewing lol

Im a longtime player here as well as a confident and capable administrator. His heavy handedness and quick twitch judgment in this manner has left a pretty sour taste overall. I do not in the slightest bit appreciate that this has happened. The inability to openly discuss this in the forums only served to further aggravate me as I rarely sign into the website and had forgotten my password. I do not deserve a ban at all let alone a permanent one and I hope this matter is resolved quickly. Its utterly rediculous I could be banned for a kill streak with any gun at anytime regardless of the number of active players. 6 AM and I hadnt even had my first cup of coffee lol. It was the first full map of the day. 5 minutes played.

Please resolve this matter promptly. Thanks
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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 1 - 2020-11-02 at 8:01 AM
You say the reason by yourself, you were server killing with that streak on a with 12 Players Filled Server, you need to slow Down , you are an Admin , in a examplary Function for others , i think thats the reason, if Honda would see this he would Ban you too ,same with stg,Bar,Honda dont like it if someone use these Weapons constandly or when Population is low, my tip for you, use the weakest weapon you can own and play with it till the server get filled .


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 2 - 2020-11-02 at 1:15 PM
First: MTip - you are unbanned.

Now let's take a calm step backward and look at a few things, here is MTip's stats
http://66.30.91.48/otac/players/100/1867 000668.png

All of his KD is under 20, anf 80% of KD is under 10, he has had killstreak 10+ in only 2% of matches no crazy scores, and he dies a lot.

As far as I am concerned MTip is an exemplary player, and I see no reason for any senior admin to have needed to step in to pretend they are Honda. As far as I am concerned Honda can/should/may boot players if they are 10-0 with an STG with 10 people on, but Honda only does this when a player habitually does this. He does not do it on first offense. And given the data, MTip is not a habitual problem, he was having one good rare streak. And a heavy-handed senior admin came down on him.

Given the senior admin rule:

Senior admins reserve the right to protect the server by addressing player behavior that falls within rules but is disruptive to the server

Ghost was within his right to have banned MTip


However, that rule exists for one reason and one reason only, that we EXPECT senior admin to be fair and reasonable and make good decisions.

I think what should have happened might have included....
1. do nothing - and play the game.
2. ask mtip to switch weapons or slow down a bit
3. simple 0 second kick
4. simple kick for a few minutes

I would have only done 1 or 2.


I seem to recall GHOST and Nair having some squabble about GHOST camping spawn, so given that, this ban of Mtip seems particularly punitive and hypocritical.

It is just a game. When you ban a player with 10 on the server, there are then 9 on the server, and that makes YOU a server killer.

MTip - I apologize to you sir - This should not have happened. Let's use this as a teaching moment.




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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 3 - 2020-11-02 at 5:05 PM
I dont say i would ban own Member Admin, but i know Honda will do it if that happens what i explaine above, sure would i ask to slow Down, but what happend between Tip and Ghost idk, i only could imagine that the Kill ratio Was the point.

When you think Bitter that kick, or ban a rule breaker make us a server Killer then we are all server Killer by reduce the players by kicking or banning when server is low populated, thats wierd what you try to say with that.


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 4 - 2020-11-02 at 5:14 PM
And i have nothing to do with this Ban,i only say what you should do next Time and what happend Honda would see that. That other stuff is old and done i am not resentfull, We should be so that we can tell each other the opinion if someone has behaved incorrectly, without being offended and pissed off, sometimes the truth hurts


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 5 - 2020-11-02 at 8:32 PM
Here are the player counts in the last 500 matches.
http://66.30.91.48/otac/matches/matches_ 500_500_20201102_2129.png

As you can see the server population is cyclical and has to do with the time of day not whether or not someone uses an STG for 10 kills in a row.

Putting on a a shotgun-only map does kill the server however.....


Last edit by BitterSpock at 2020-11-02 at 8:33 PM (1x Edited)
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