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Fraisouille


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# Thread - 2021-01-05 at 9:54 AM
Hello all,

I was wondering why the server is not modded to make it more realistic ?
A mod could be used to turn player speed down (and therefore remove the no running rule)
A mod i know (actually, a mod i made ) would make weapons totally innacurate if not aiming, pistols were made only short range weapons, your screen turns black instantly when you get killed, etc, etc...
Anothing thing i think of is the fact that russians use only russian weapons (& so on) so you can use the weapons sounds to know if you're next to a friend or ennemy...

If you're interested, i can share the mod i made (an enhanced fully configurable WRM mod)


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Fraisouille
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# Answer: 1 - 2021-01-05 at 10:11 AM
If you want to have some clues about the features included in the mod, you can check that topic :
http://wbdteam.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.p hp?t=3060
But it's in french


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[duck]lola_brennt


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# Answer: 2 - 2021-01-05 at 1:08 PM
Salut Fra...

we tried a modded server. The players didn't accept it that much.
Even with all the "advantages" of modding and new maps.
Most of the players just like, what they are used to play all the
time, even if they start to complain about different issues/features
of the unmodded server.

Another issue is, internet bandwith in case of maps needed to
be downloaded. 3 years ago, my bandwidth has been DSL 0.384 Mbit/s
which is almost the speed of a floppy disk. It took me more then 20
minutes to download a map, but after 20 Minutes, map changed,
server cancelled (and deleted) my download, and download of
the next map started. I needed to dl the maps from seperate (file)server
and i neede to install them manually into the game folder(s).
Not a big deal to me, but a big deal to some other players.

Sure, i wish, we could play at least one new map, let's say every
2 months. If the players like it, keep it, if the don't, change to a different
one (and i heard about several converted COD2 maps, which should
be great...). But without a mod, this won't work. And even if
we have a modded server... it doesn't make sense, if there is noone
playing there... this are some things, we experienced in case
of modded server. Just the ones i remember, there are some more.

Bye..., Bert...


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Fraisouille
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# Answer: 3 - 2021-01-05 at 4:14 PM
A modded server can keep running regular maps

Anyway, if any admin wants to give it a try, i still have the mod code and generated files. I lost the cfg file but i could rebuild one and i can run a test server to play with it.


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Fraisouille
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# Answer: 4 - 2021-01-06 at 5:05 AM
I remembered coding :
- betty are defusable
- smokes last longer
- grenades are heavier (you cannot send them to the opposite side of the map)
- all weapons rate of fire is realistic (firing using the mouse wheel has no effect)
- weapons ammo are counted as nb of magazines instead of nb of bullets
- all weapons of a given nation available for everyone (no progression needed)
- possibility of limiting some weapons (for example, only 1 sniper, 2 automatic weapon, etc.)
- a Call of Duty 2 like compass so you can use proper direction to give ennemy positions to your friend
- nothing is displayed when you hit / kill someone
- possibility to pick up bazooka's, satchel, betty and use them

... and lots of other features that can be enabled / disabled.


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Fraisouille
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# Answer: 5 - 2021-01-07 at 9:05 AM
2021-01-05 at 1:08 PM - [duck]lola_brennt:
Another issue is, internet bandwith in case of maps needed to
be downloaded. 3 years ago, my bandwidth has been DSL 0.384 Mbit/s
which is almost the speed of a floppy disk.


My mod weights 8 MB total, including a few custom sounds. Actually, you can find lots of light weight mods.


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Nair0lF


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Location: Bad Gandersheim
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# Answer: 6 - 2021-01-08 at 4:54 AM
I liked the modded Server too ,maybe we can change the Server to a Mod Server and put in the original maps and add some other maps too ,i think this would be great, if its not getting populated with the other added maps,we can remove them and still try other maps or let the original map Rotation running, but i cant understand why its not should work,everyone liked the maps froms cod 2 or other Editions, what does a modded Server Cost like we have it now with 40 players , if its that much more, i think maybe some will donate some money for it,and there must be a solution with the download speed too.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 7 - 2021-01-08 at 12:15 PM
mod server => unranked
unranked => no server population influx
no server population influx => server empties daily
server empties daily => coordinated critical mass needed
coordinated critical mass needed => empty mod server
empty mod server => players always join stock ranked server
players always join stock ranked server => mod server is not viable
mod server is not viable => OTAC will not set up another mod server
OTaC will not set up another mod server => OTaC plays on stock server
OTaC plays on stock server => server is populated
server is populated => Honda/Spock continue to pay for servers/web servers



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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 8 - 2021-01-08 at 2:47 PM
What does Ranked mean?

A ranked server is a server to which the points received in the game for kills, challenges and goals are credited. The more points you collect in total, the higher you rise in rank. The higher the rank, the more weapons and extras are available. As soon as you want to change the standard settings for the individual classes with regard to weapons and extras or load an extra mod, the server must be unranked. The points obtained on such servers do not count towards the rank. If you want to have an unranked or modded server, you can activate unranked in the server configuration under Admintools -> manage. The administration tool ESL Config offers the same function, only that the current S&D 5on5 ESL DE Config is available here.




What is a modded server?

This is a server that has at least changed the standard settings for the individual classes. Every server with an external mod such as PAM4 counts as a modded and thus also as an unranked server. Instead of the main folder, reference is made to the mods / warfare folder. This should contain all the files required for the mod. Alternatively, the creator of the mod can choose to use a separate folder below the mod folder. But that is not crucial for the functionality of the mod. It is only important that all files of the mod including the configs are not in the Main folder.


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Aussiekille8


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# Answer: 9 - 2021-01-08 at 9:03 PM
i agree with bitter as i found my cd of waw and put it on and went on the xi custom maps sever on my old name and as the custon maps are cool the reason i did not like it it was the rank i got one shot and got from rank 1 to 65 with all 10 classess unlock i did not like that as i like to unlock and achievement my classess with my skill as it more fun that way


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Nair0lF


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# Answer: 10 - 2021-01-09 at 8:42 AM
Its Ok, i had Dream , a good memory back what a good nice Time we had ,as we still has a modded Server for our second one, Dreaming is allowed


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 11 - 2021-01-10 at 9:15 AM
Dreaming is forbidden! All dreams must be kept 6 ft apart from other dreams


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Aussiekille8


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# Answer: 12 - 2021-01-10 at 10:58 AM
hahaha


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Fraisouille
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# Answer: 13 - 2021-01-11 at 3:48 AM
Back in the days when CoD WaW servers were all over the place, my server used to be full every evening because some people were looking for something more tactical than vanilla servers. I believe that your server's polulation is usually more interested in tactical stuff than the ranked features

I'll keep my dream to myself...


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