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 matuopPrivate First Class Posts: 6 |
# Thread - 2023-01-27 at 12:51 PM
Hello the bot banned me again today |
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 Mr.MTipLieutenant General II Posts: 304 |
# Answer: 1 - 2023-01-27 at 2:02 PM
I heard the bot banned you again for the same thing as last time.......Oddly enough. If that is the case then... You're either : A) too dumb for figure out how your hacks work B) ignorant of the fact everyone is watching you C) you're a bit like Rustyer and a few others and you just dont a give a rats arse about the rules here on the server. Im inclined to say C) as I receive complaints about you in game pretty consistently from regulars about spawn camping, follwing players through walls, exceptional pre firing corners etc. etc. etc. I wouldnt mind at all if you stayed gone for a while as it means more time in game and playing for me. Im tired of giving up my free time to babysit players like you for the regulars of this server. Its hilarious to me that the bot nailed you itself for the second time a few maps into being unbanned. You are lucky, for the moment, that its not my call. |
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 BitterSpockMaster of Time and Space  Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 2 - 2023-01-27 at 3:06 PM
He is ranking up weapons and focusing on headshots |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 3 - 2023-01-27 at 3:08 PM
You are unbanned - but COUNT dammit |
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| _Humber Lt. Colonel Posts: 211 |
# Answer: 4 - 2023-01-27 at 5:32 PM
My only question is does unbanning this player benefit the majority of those who play on the server? |
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| Rustyer2666 Corporal Posts: 22 |
# Answer: 5 - 2023-01-28 at 9:38 AM
2023-01-27 at 2:02 PM - Mr.MTip: I heard the bot banned you again for the same thing as last time.......Oddly enough. If that is the case then... You're either : A) too dumb for figure out how your hacks work B) ignorant of the fact everyone is watching you C) you're a bit like Rustyer and a few others and you just dont a give a rats arse about the rules here on the server. Im inclined to say C) as I receive complaints about you in game pretty consistently from regulars about spawn camping, follwing players through walls, exceptional pre firing corners etc. etc. etc. I wouldnt mind at all if you stayed gone for a while as it means more time in game and playing for me. Im tired of giving up my free time to babysit players like you for the regulars of this server. Its hilarious to me that the bot nailed you itself for the second time a few maps into being unbanned. You are lucky, for the moment, that its not my call. Not the place for this discussion but I have irrefutable proof I don't cheat, and I follow your rules to a tee you just don't like that I'm insanely good. Also why has a guy that has tripped your auto ban twice get less scrutiny then me is something id very much like to know. Last edit by Rustyer2666 at 2023-01-28 at 10:00 AM (1x Edited) |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 6 - 2023-01-28 at 10:08 AM
I was the last kill yesterday before the bot banned him. I'd love to know how he headshot me since I was behind something and running from a nade when he did it. |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 7 - 2023-01-28 at 10:09 AM
2023-01-28 at 9:38 AM - Rustyer2666: 2023-01-27 at 2:02 PM - Mr.MTip: I heard the bot banned you again for the same thing as last time.......Oddly enough. If that is the case then... You're either : A) too dumb for figure out how your hacks work B) ignorant of the fact everyone is watching you C) you're a bit like Rustyer and a few others and you just dont a give a rats arse about the rules here on the server. Im inclined to say C) as I receive complaints about you in game pretty consistently from regulars about spawn camping, follwing players through walls, exceptional pre firing corners etc. etc. etc. I wouldnt mind at all if you stayed gone for a while as it means more time in game and playing for me. Im tired of giving up my free time to babysit players like you for the regulars of this server. Its hilarious to me that the bot nailed you itself for the second time a few maps into being unbanned. You are lucky, for the moment, that its not my call. Not the place for this discussion but I have irrefutable proof I don't cheat, and I follow your rules to a tee you just don't like that I'm insanely good. Also why has a guy that has tripped your auto ban twice get less scrutiny then me is something id very much like to know. You forgot to mention how humble you are. 
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| Rustyer2666 Corporal Posts: 22 |
# Answer: 8 - 2023-01-28 at 10:13 AM
I very much dislike people being intellectually dishonest, and calling me a cheat with less then nothing evidence then being harassed about it for weeks. Sorry if I don't come off as humble and I would have never engaged here if someone didn't decide it was necessary. I would very much appreciate if you could at least acknowledge those facts happen to be true no matter how much you dislike it, in return I wont augmentative about it and you wont hear anything from me about it again. Last edit by Rustyer2666 at 2023-01-28 at 11:43 AM (2x Edited) |
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| Mr.MTip Lieutenant General II Posts: 304 |
# Answer: 9 - 2023-01-28 at 1:16 PM
Rustyer, would you please kindly and very promptly pull your head out of your ass? The entire player base would appreciate THAT very much. No one called you a cheat. At least, not in this thread specifically lol. Also, your irrefutable evidence was recorded by you yourself and linked on the forums by.... you.... yourself. There were several demo recordings made by admins ( who are..... not you ) And several of those demos earned you a ban based on those demos. That "proof" you attempted to provide was little more than some self aggrandising jerk off in the mirror. We all had a good laugh about that attempt at feasible evidence in TS.. and for several weeks after. I could very easily go outside right now, turn on the garden hose, make a video telling everyone its raining while I just wave the nozzle around like a clown. Post that video and tell everyone I did a rain dance and thats how rain really stops. Nevermind the squeaking faucet while I just.... shut it off. I think you would intellectually dishonest if you cant see the absurdity of the comparison there. That being said I used your name as nothing more than a recent example of players who continue to deplete the server with "insanely good" play. So congratulation you're still in the club. Other notable names who have also been banned and overturned are players like SantGrov and Thermite in recent memory. We also get the same complaints about players like Paladin, Hippo, SenatorsSon, Trailboss the list goes on. Demos against that bunch go nowheres. They're actually just good sometimes and to a man not one of them would (and again these names are just examples from a larger group ) would record their own video as proof hahahaha. God you kill me man. We get complaints about admins playing under different names from regulars and admins alike. Demos submitted by regulars and admins. Ive had demos submitted against me. The difference is.... when we get asked to tone it down for the health of the server and the player base.... we do. YOU DONT. You're an absolute bellend fella. Seriously. Also, just in fairness, I did say in an older thread that we should unban you because you're not that good anyways lol. I said that because its true. But hey man... you could always make another video with some proof of how good you are right? We would accept that as well as the first one lol Feel free to join me on TS anytime you'd like to go over the finer details of what I think about you and your attitude through the last calendar year. So...back to the real matter of this thread.... Bitter, does Matyop stay banned if he slips again? |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 10 - 2023-01-29 at 7:39 AM
Mr MTip - Would kindly please stop being abrasive. It reflects poorly on you and all of us. Last edit by BitterSpock at 2023-01-29 at 7:39 AM (1x Edited) |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 11 - 2023-01-29 at 7:55 AM
Rustyer, Facts: 1. I require a smoking gun demo of someone hacking to UPHOLD a ban for hacking - This means an admin may ban a player but it will be overturned if there is not demo or if the demo is not conclusive. 2. You are one of the top 5 highest scoring players on the server, and therefor you are always going to be on the radar of admin. 3. Admin have all different temperaments and biases and suspicions about players, and tones taken in their interactions. 4. Players have all different temperaments and biases about admin, and tones taken in their interactions. 5. When BOTH 3 and 4 interact with each other and are BOTH abrasive - things escalate and due to the imbalance of power, the player loses and the admin wins. When is happens, it comes to the forums and then I lose - since now I have to read, respond, and spend time in my life I can't get back. 6. I would prefer all admin had pleasant interactions with players even if the player is abrasive. 7. I would prefer all players had pleasant interactions with admin even if the admin is abrasive. 8. This is just a game. It is supposed to be fun. You are all adults. Own your interactions with others. You reap what you sow. 9. Being accused of cheating is the highest compliment one can receive about one's gameplay (unless you are actually cheating) - So don't be offended - Say thank you - I appreciate the compliment. 10. There is no number 10 |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 12 - 2023-01-30 at 7:06 AM
One last comment to admin. We have crossed into new territory in that the server population now reaches 0 at times whereas before it only reached a low number. That means that our server population is trending downward overall. Every time there is witchhunt to ban players or disdain toward a regular, their removal threatens the bottom line. I just don't get it. Whenever I play I never seem to have issue with any long lime player. If long time regulars are annoying you you may want to look inward. Server killing is not a real thing. If people chose to leave because someone else is playing and they don't like them, that is on the player leaving. Some people leave because they don't like the map, or tanks, or shotgun, or bolt, or whatever. The bottom line is if we removed every player that annoyed any one of us, we would boot all the regulars and 3/4 of the OTaC membership too, myself included. We are also not retaining players by having "ultimatum admin" .... Many times I hear admin say in game "Player X if I see you do XYZ offense again I am gonna boot you". THAT HAS TO STOP. There is no need to engage a player. There are warning bot commands. Use them not your voice or equivalent text. And then after prescribed warnings just boot them. We also need to stop kicking people for a day or more on first offense. THAT is what is hurting server population. Not the skilled player. Enough overlapping heavy handed long kicks and then we lose critical mass and the server population goes to 0. That is happening now. PLEASE Relax everyone - this is just a game - and even the occasional annoying players are not annoying most of the time and their presence on the server adds headcount and value. |
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| matuop Thread author Private First Class Posts: 6 |
# Answer: 13 - 2023-01-30 at 10:29 AM
Thanks bitter, I don't think I'll do the weapon achievements anymore as it's annoying to end up banned. Cheers |
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 14 - 2023-01-30 at 1:47 PM
I still have to fix the bug just stay under 20 headshots per game |
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| _Humber Lt. Colonel Posts: 211 |
# Answer: 15 - 2023-01-31 at 5:54 PM
2023-01-30 at 7:06 AM - BitterSpock: One last comment to admin. We have crossed into new territory in that the server population now reaches 0 at times whereas before it only reached a low number. That means that our server population is trending downward overall. Every time there is witchhunt to ban players or disdain toward a regular, their removal threatens the bottom line. I just don't get it. Whenever I play I never seem to have issue with any long lime player. If long time regulars are annoying you you may want to look inward. Server killing is not a real thing. If people chose to leave because someone else is playing and they don't like them, that is on the player leaving. Some people leave because they don't like the map, or tanks, or shotgun, or bolt, or whatever. The bottom line is if we removed every player that annoyed any one of us, we would boot all the regulars and 3/4 of the OTaC membership too, myself included. We are also not retaining players by having "ultimatum admin" .... Many times I hear admin say in game "Player X if I see you do XYZ offense again I am gonna boot you". THAT HAS TO STOP. There is no need to engage a player. There are warning bot commands. Use them not your voice or equivalent text. And then after prescribed warnings just boot them. We also need to stop kicking people for a day or more on first offense. THAT is what is hurting server population. Not the skilled player. Enough overlapping heavy handed long kicks and then we lose critical mass and the server population goes to 0. That is happening now. PLEASE Relax everyone - this is just a game - and even the occasional annoying players are not annoying most of the time and their presence on the server adds headcount and value. Read and understood. |
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 La_Tatane_BRMaster Sergeant II  Location: Asnières sur Seine Posts: 104 |
# Answer: 16 - 2023-02-01 at 6:05 AM
2023-01-30 at 7:06 AM - BitterSpock: One last comment to admin. We have crossed into new territory in that the server population now reaches 0 at times whereas before it only reached a low number. That means that our server population is trending downward overall. Every time there is witchhunt to ban players or disdain toward a regular, their removal threatens the bottom line. I just don't get it. Whenever I play I never seem to have issue with any long lime player. If long time regulars are annoying you you may want to look inward. Server killing is not a real thing. If people chose to leave because someone else is playing and they don't like them, that is on the player leaving. Some people leave because they don't like the map, or tanks, or shotgun, or bolt, or whatever. The bottom line is if we removed every player that annoyed any one of us, we would boot all the regulars and 3/4 of the OTaC membership too, myself included. We are also not retaining players by having "ultimatum admin" .... Many times I hear admin say in game "Player X if I see you do XYZ offense again I am gonna boot you". THAT HAS TO STOP. There is no need to engage a player. There are warning bot commands. Use them not your voice or equivalent text. And then after prescribed warnings just boot them. We also need to stop kicking people for a day or more on first offense. THAT is what is hurting server population. Not the skilled player. Enough overlapping heavy handed long kicks and then we lose critical mass and the server population goes to 0. That is happening now. PLEASE Relax everyone - this is just a game - and even the occasional annoying players are not annoying most of the time and their presence on the server adds headcount and value. Hi all, I think we are all aware of loss of players on the server, but : • There are rules that we display to players, including long time players and the admin is supposed to do his best to enforce these rules and recall them to players who break them, • Should we let go when we see players and espacially long time players allowing themselves to burst run or do anything of this kind ? If we have to be tolerant, I don't mind but in this case, why should we have rules ? We could change to a run and gun server and stop sticking to a tactical one, • Most of the admins try to be educative to new players, displaying the rules for them, caring about the appropriate language they should understand. It can happen that when we spend most of our time that should be used to play, just watching usual rule breakers, we get angry and kick people for a time. And I can give you a list of usual rulebreakers, like SenatorsSon, Il-falegname, bureau2fr, and so on. These players always deny that they have done such a thing that you warn them and get ironical, critical though you have just warned them. What should we do ? Let it go ? • Can't remember the other points I wanted to mention, sorry for that ! 
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| BitterSpock Master of Time and Space Location: Planet Vulcan Posts: 2864 |
# Answer: 17 - 2023-02-01 at 5:07 PM
1. A player burst runs during a match 2. An admin kicks the player for 7 days Which of the two above do you think is more wrong? #2 3. A cop writes a ticket for a car doing 57 in a 55 zone. 4. A cop writes a ticket for a car doing 80 in a 55 zone. I want admin that let #3 slide - it is no big deal |
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| La_Tatane_BR Master Sergeant II Location: Asnières sur Seine Posts: 104 |
# Answer: 18 - 2023-02-02 at 4:13 AM
2023-02-01 at 5:07 PM - BitterSpock: 1. A player burst runs during a match 2. An admin kicks the player for 7 days Which of the two above do you think is more wrong? #2 3. A cop writes a ticket for a car doing 57 in a 55 zone. 4. A cop writes a ticket for a car doing 80 in a 55 zone. I want admin that let #3 slide - it is no big deal Hello Bitter, I never kicked any player for more than 1 day, and never did so when I caught a player constantly running or burst running. In that case, I first kick them for no time, after having warned them several times, ask them to respond and give a final warning, if they are new to the server, or give them a warning then kick if they are regular players, supposed to know the rules and comply to them. If they keep on doing, I usually kick them for 10 or 20 minutes, or 1 or 2 hours. Am I wrong ? |
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| 1000 Faces Staff Sergeant I Posts: 59 |
# Answer: 19 - 2023-02-02 at 7:58 AM
The burst running issue is an interesting one. For the last couple of months I, and others, have noticed some long time players burst running quite frequently. The worst offender is Capt-Corelli who is especially notorious for running around corners, but does it quite often in other areas as well. He has been called out by multiple players and admins, but to my knowledge has never been kicked for it, which IMO he should be given a bit of a timeout due to the frequency of it. It wouldn't be a huge deal if it weren't for the fact that I have seen other players when warned about burst running use the excuse of "well Corelli does it and he doesn't get kicked" or some variation of those words, and as a result nothing is done to those players either. While that is fair, it is a problem as burst running does seem to be becoming more frequent and is hurting the gameplay. Just my $,02 of course, but since burst running was used as an example above I wanted to point out what I have seen. |
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| La_Tatane_BR Master Sergeant II Location: Asnières sur Seine Posts: 104 |
# Answer: 20 - 2023-02-02 at 9:58 AM
Hello 1000Faces, I kicked Corelli for that very reason a few times, warned him even more, but I need to see players when they break rules in order to be fair when I kick, which is not a very valuable pleasure to me... But you pointed out an issue : I think that the server gets a bit depopulated partly because of these frequent rule breaking by long time players. We can encourage players who are new to OTaC server to comply to the rules. It gets harder when regular ones decide that they just don't care about rules and warnings... |
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