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IIII


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# Thread - 2024-02-26 at 5:50 PM
Yo Torgue, you perma banned me for no recoil. WHAT THE HELL? unban biter4admin please. Hacking is serious you dont throw perma bans like that, this is abuse.


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Mr.MTip


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# Answer: 1 - 2024-02-26 at 6:02 PM
A fellow admin alerted me to you with a private message through rcon. You were spectated by 3 different admins ( 2 active and 1 removed his tags). We all said no recoil. There is a recording.

Its hardly abuse when three different admins all agree, as well as players in game making complaints, AS WELL AS.... the recording.

the FG42 has a lot more bounce than what you were showing, which was none.

Who knows, the ban might be overturned.


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# Answer: 2 - 2024-02-26 at 6:05 PM
Can I see the recording? I was timing my shots by clicking.


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# Answer: 3 - 2024-02-26 at 6:06 PM
I was not using any hack whatsoever, I was simply timing my shots. Can I please demo yall so you can see this isnt fowl play


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# Answer: 4 - 2024-02-26 at 6:19 PM
I made recording showcasing how, but cant upload here because of size, how can I show you all?


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# Answer: 5 - 2024-02-26 at 6:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3RZkB5u4nk


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# Answer: 6 - 2024-02-26 at 6:38 PM
Please notice how I dont go full auto, hence the lack of bounce


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# Answer: 7 - 2024-02-26 at 6:45 PM
2024-02-26 at 6:02 PM - Mr.MTip:
A fellow admin alerted me to you with a private message through rcon. You were spectated by 3 different admins ( 2 active and 1 removed his tags). We all said no recoil. There is a recording.

Its hardly abuse when three different admins all agree, as well as players in game making complaints, AS WELL AS.... the recording.

the FG42 has a lot more bounce than what you were showing, which was none.

Who knows, the ban might be overturned.


Please have a look at the video. THIS is what I did to avoid recoil. I timed the shots so it wouldnt bounce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3RZkB5u4nk


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Mikel


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# Answer: 8 - 2024-02-27 at 2:27 PM
Im not and admin. But certanly i know some about this game.
Say that, lets go the point:
What this video record proof? Nothing except you recorded a demo, no online gamming, but yourself in a server or map charged. Here could be just some as easy as turn off the recoil-hack for that record and just with that upload a vid. So simple no? This is a proof of nothing. Upload a demo complete playing, with same kil ratio you usally have same weapon and then we can see if there is or there is not a recoil-hack or other things, like binds etc etc. Dont forget record your full screen and to be complete secure record your own desktop with your pc and usb etc when play. There if you show all that all will be able to see if you are clean or not. Right?

Repeat. Im not an OuTtac Admin, but i trust 100% in their criteria and manners to do the things, All times they show a great respect not only for all players that play daily in server also for those cassual players that come to enjoy here.
If 3 admins OuTtac are agree about that question, my bet is they saw something weird.

My 2 cents.

Greetings to the Canadian Cobra and all OuTtac people and members.

PS. i did same comment in your Youtube vid, so you see im not posting my opinion just here also i did in your video for the records.


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 9 - 2024-02-27 at 2:39 PM
I first noticed no recoil on the BAR that you were using and asked for Torgue to have a look to confirm or counter what I was seeing. At the rate of fire that you were firing there is no possible way that you could be timing your shots, not humanly possibly. The ROF (rate of fire) for the fg42 is even faster than the BAR, so not possible to time your shots....unless you are superman.. and you're not.

A demo was created, it will be viewed and a decision will be rendered! Until that time you are banned.


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# Answer: 10 - 2024-02-27 at 4:27 PM
2024-02-27 at 2:27 PM - Mikel:
Im not and admin. But certanly i know some about this game.
Say that, lets go the point:
What this video record proof? Nothing except you recorded a demo, no online gamming, but yourself in a server or map charged. Here could be just some as easy as turn off the recoil-hack for that record and just with that upload a vid. So simple no? This is a proof of nothing. Upload a demo complete playing, with same kil ratio you usally have same weapon and then we can see if there is or there is not a recoil-hack or other things, like binds etc etc. Dont forget record your full screen and to be complete secure record your own desktop with your pc and usb etc when play. There if you show all that all will be able to see if you are clean or not. Right?

Repeat. Im not an OuTtac Admin, but i trust 100% in their criteria and manners to do the things, All times they show a great respect not only for all players that play daily in server also for those cassual players that come to enjoy here.
If 3 admins OuTtac are agree about that question, my bet is they saw something weird.

My 2 cents.

Greetings to the Canadian Cobra and all OuTtac people and members.

PS. i did same comment in your Youtube vid, so you see im not posting my opinion just here also i did in your video for the records.


The video isnt meant to be a proof. This is to showcase how I was timing my shots to avoid recoil, nothing more so please stop giving me false intentions. This is to show how I time my shots, the only thing I wished to know is wrether or not this look like no recoil hack. If not, my mind will be at peace knowing this is what I usually do, and the demo shown to the proper authority will reflect that.


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Voodoo


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# Answer: 11 - 2024-02-27 at 4:39 PM
The in game demo will be reviewed and a decision will be rendered. Until that time you are not playing on our server!


Last edit by Voodoo at 2024-02-28 at 7:04 AM (1x Edited)
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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 12 - 2024-04-05 at 4:18 PM
So I finally looked that the demo video
A couple things.....
1. It shows what appears to be no-recoil for about 20 seconds, then switched to bolt
2. So I think it likely shows no-recoil, BUT, I really really wish there was a longer span in the video.
3. There was alleged a BAR showing it too, but that demo is not present for me to rule on.

So I am gonna do this.
I will lift the ban until another conclusive demo surfaces.
I will re-evaluate at that time.


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BitterSpock


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# Answer: 13 - 2024-04-06 at 1:56 PM
I do not see biter4admin or that associated GUI in the ban.txt
closing


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