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 Coffin_DPrivate First Class Posts: 8 |
# Thread - 2015-07-29 at 12:50 AM
SuperMidget seems to consistently get high number of kills while often joining late, usually 8-9 mins in. |
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 deebow9Commander Posts: 330 |
# Answer: 1 - 2015-07-29 at 9:12 PM
yep. |
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 BluePhoenixCommander  Posts: 385 |
# Answer: 2 - 2015-07-31 at 5:17 PM
Personnaly I have not doubt this guy is a hacker and there are many more active players that are hackers as well. SuperMidget seems to sense he is being watched and he then turns his hacks off. In general, I would encourage the leadership at OutTact to act even on suspisions and Ban suspected hackers. With PunkBuster no longer supporting COD5, we need to police the players ourselves. We can no longer prove cheating or enforce game wide bans. But you can choose who plays on the servers that you pay for and spend 1000s of hours maintaining. Players like SuperMidget are universally hated. Even if he trully is god's gift to COD5, we don't like playing with him or others of his ilk. He greatly disrupts the game, causes many to leave or not join the server and it is not FUN to play when he is on. He simply ruins the experience for others. You pay for the server with your hard earned cash and your coutless hours of moderating and server administration (thanks by the way). It's your choice to ban an unwanted guest. Proof is not needed to enforce this. I can not tell you how many times I have heard your admins state that they loose their enjoyment of the game and server, when they have to spend so much time dealing with these bad apples. Respect their efforts and grant them the ability to Ban suspected hackers. Enjoy what you have and the time you are here. |
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| CAPPY1892 Private First Class Posts: 7 |
# Answer: 3 - 2015-08-02 at 10:03 PM
2015-07-31 at 5:17 PM - BluePhoenix: Personnaly I have not doubt this guy is a hacker and there are many more active players that are hackers as well. SuperMidget seems to sense he is being watched and he then turns his hacks off. In general, I would encourage the leadership at OutTact to act even on suspisions and Ban suspected hackers. That line , i cannot in anyway shape or form agree with. Suspected hackers, should be watched. recorded and dealt with IF there is conclusive proof.Banning good players and tarnishing their name as a hacker without proof is just wrong. There is a double edge sword to banning "Suspected hackers" the main downside to taking that stance, is the OTAC clans name gets dragged thru the mud, it becomes known as a clan full of Badmins{rightly or wrongly, that is how it will be perceived} who only ban players because the got the better of the admins in game. Its a path i encourage OTAC not to traverse Server killers, however, i agree,thats a clan decision made in the interests of server population it might not be "nice" for the player who is too skilled, but as you note the server is paid for by those who run it and i fully understand their position. Just my 2 cents |
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 Davide30541Commander  Location: OXFORD Posts: 891 |
# Answer: 4 - 2015-08-03 at 6:06 AM
hackers that are obvious when hacking are banned. hackers that are smart and rack up kills, all the while behaving somewhat normallly are dealt with the server killer treatment untill it becomes clear they are really hacking OR that they are just a great player. banning suspected hackers is wrong in my view. |
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 subzjee2nd Lieutenant II Posts: 141 |
# Answer: 5 - 2015-08-03 at 3:11 PM
Agreed with Davide that banning suspected hackers is wrong. |
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 Nair0lFMaster of Time and Space Location: Bad Gandersheim Posts: 1516 |
# Answer: 6 - 2015-08-03 at 5:07 PM
If its wrong they can appeal the ban, if they really wants to play here and there is nothing to fear, I mean we or the most admins who ban suspect players have alot of experience , we talk in a Meeting the senior admins should watch over the recording and decide what to Do , am I wrong? Last edit by Nair0lF at 2015-08-03 at 5:09 PM (1x Edited) |
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 KnollseisenLt. Colonel  Posts: 210 |
# Answer: 7 - 2015-08-03 at 5:17 PM
I think we have to ban when we are sure that a player is hacking. We could make errors, we are humans, or tired, or we forgot the glasses at work... this is ok. And in this cases we will un-ban the player. But if is just a suspect I think we have to calm down and be patient. If the player is dominating the server, that's an other case and we adopt different strategies... ------------------ Last month on OuTaC Server Score  Minutes  |
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| MrMackeyMkay BoardMod  Location: Portland OR Posts: 823 |
# Answer: 8 - 2015-08-07 at 1:13 PM
I understand you frustration BluePhoenix. I appreciate your concerns and viewpoint Cappy. Not every map we play is going to be as fun as the next. Sometimes our team gets pinned into a corner on one map. Sometime we get a difficult player (or players) that force admins to fill our view with warnings and/or kicks. Sometimes we encounter a player that seems unbelievably good. It is our hope that the majority of experiences at OTaC are enjoyable. After all is said, one of our main goals is to populate our server in a fair and friendly environment. It is not the cheating that is the problem. I could envision a scenario where a disabled person would benefit from an aimbot adjusted to be less accurate. (This of course would require considerable verification and coordination with the administration at OTaC.) It is that the cheating makes the environment un-enjoyable for our guests. It allows a player to attain phenomenally high kills and subterranean death scores. It is THIS that drives players away and kills our server. We have a procedure to deal with server-killers. In stead of worrying about who is honorable or who is not, we concentrate on the broader picture. If we determine a player is Killing the server we ask them to follow our anti-server-killer directions. Admins follow a well documented procedure to alert, warn and guide players away from server-killing behavior. It is our hope that the player will enjoy more the atmosphere at OTaC than the epic glory gained from getting high scores all the time. If not, there are other servers. Some players will feel (and have felt) oppressed and leave. Some players will be initially offended (and have) but then come to understand our stance, and remain to enjoy the server. I personally find no joy in trying to judge another person. Our admins work very hard to be fair to all people. Sometimes we get it wrong. At those times we straighten course, repair damage, and try again. ------------------ Something Really Witty!!! Last edit by MrMackeyMkay at 2015-08-07 at 1:14 PM (1x Edited) |
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 [Sir]-Pingo-Master Sergeant II  Posts: 102 |
# Answer: 9 - 2015-08-07 at 4:29 PM
Exactly what is a server killer? I sometimes or often get high scores, but my deaths usually follow the score. Sometimes my score is really bad, like 5 kills and 15 deaths, most often when that happen the server is full or close to being full, then its enough with just a few players covering the bottle necks and i make a easy target trying to get to the other side. Im at my best when it is a small map with max 15 or 20 players and everyone is moving around. I try to remember to switch to bolt when i hit 30 kills, but sometimes i forgett. Does that makes me a server killer or what is your oppinion about me? ------------------ For you its, [Sir]-Pingo- ooyeah baby... Last edit by -Pingo- at 2015-08-07 at 4:29 PM (1x Edited) |
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